<-- Non says "You Suck Singer!" Recently, Jack O'Halloran, who played the mute Kryptonian villain "Non" in Superman The Movie and Superman II, did an interview with the website Ringside Report about his life in the boxing ring and Hollywood. O'Halloran talks a bunch about playing Non, what went down on the set of the first two Superman movies, and he also gives his thoughts on the recent Singerman movie, Brandon Routh, and Bryan Singer.
GM: What do you think of the new Superman movie: Superman Returns, that came out in 2006?I think he meant to say "Christopher Reeve" at the end not "Gene Hackman." But this is interesting to hear. It's the honest opinion of a guy who worked on the classic films who no longer has any ties to W.B., etc. and can actually speak his mind on the topic without worrying about who he offends. Needless to say we couldn't agree more with his assessment. I wonder if he knows about the $10 million of CGI that was left on the cutting room floor? Now we just need to find out what Terrence Stamp and Sarah Douglas think.
JO: You know, I thought that the kid (Brandon Routh) got away with it, but I think that Bryan Singer is too much of a CGI guy. I think that they ruined and wasted a lot of very good talent. It is very difficult to replace Gene Hackman, but the kid ended up doing a good job as Superman.
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now they do this new film, and they change the costume, which I thought was a bad idea. There was too much CGI. You had great actors in Kevin Spacey and Frank Langella, who didn’t have enough screen time.
There wasn’t enough screen time for Clark Kent as Clark Kent. The kid should have been Kent a lot more, and the storyline sucked.
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The guy is like Non saying "Gene Hackman" instead of Chris Reeve. Sure he isnt pottie mouth?
"The guy is like Non saying "Gene Hackman" instead of Chris Reeve. Sure he isnt pottie mouth?"
Wow, keep proving how fucking stupid you are, asshair.
The really SAD part is, this dickwad probably looked at what he wrote and said: "Yeah, that'll show them I'm a smart not a dumb."
Don't listen to tha above he just like to insult. The point I made is that many people like this movie. and the script got the blessing of Chris Reeves widow before she died. So if you want opinion based article I can have another 10 that agree with my view point.
2009 he is back
"Don't listen to tha above he just like to insult. The point I made is that many people like this movie. and the script got the blessing of Chris Reeves widow before she died. So if you want opinion based article I can have another 10 that agree with my view point.
2009 he is back"
"I'm still a smart 'cuz I can make stuff up 'n stuff".
Keep telling people what to do, you "Apologist" pussy. People REALLY respect you around here, huh?
You guys do realize that your beloved Donner is on record as saying that he loved SR.
yeah that same Donner who still works with Warner Brothers and who's wife is good friends with Singer. Yeah he's really gonna give you an honest opinion ot it.
That being said, Donner isnt "beloved" here, he made a good movie 30 years ago. The character has long since moved on past that point and had a considerable amount of depth added to him since, which is what everyone except for Singer seemed to realize.
As for the person who posted that Dana Reeve "approved" the SR script, you're a fool. She said she thought Routh would make a good Superman, she didnt review the SR script. I imagine that your reading comprehension level is something just above that of a 4 year old with mild retardation.
"yeah that same Donner who still works with Warner Brothers and who's wife is good friends with Singer. Yeah he's really gonna give you an honest opinion ot it."
LOL oh yeah so now Donner is just some corporate lacky who can not be taken at his word. Yeah he was real quiet about how he was treated by the Salkinds over the years. He has said that he hated Superman 2 for years moron, he was not towing the company line then. I have seen enough baseless assinine conspiracy theories on this blog to last me a fucking lifetime. Donner really liked the film you disagree with him FINE but calling the man a liar is just flat out WRONG.
As soon as that post about Donner liking SR was posted i knew one of you retards was going to call him a liar and that he probably really hated it. It just kills you assholes that the director that gave you the Superman movie you all love, really enjoyed Singer's Superman.
"yeah that same Donner who still works with Warner Brothers and who's wife is good friends with Singer. Yeah he's really gonna give you an honest opinion ot it."
Oh my god you people will say anything to push your bullshit agenda. You got any theories on who really killed Kennedy while you are at it.
Anyone "convinced" this isn't the same poster posting REPEATEDLY, to try to fool people into thinking it's more than one person? How fucking sad. What gives it away is, the asshole posts the EXACT SAME WAY EVERY TIME. Learn punctuation and grammar, you inbred idiot.
And who gives a fuck what Richard Donner thinks? Can you post an EXACT link to his comments? Do you have his telephone number so we can call and confirm? Or did you just get that bullshit from the other "Apologist" bitches at Bluetights?
So let me get this straight the guy who plays NON in Superman 2 who had no dialogue in the movie, opinions about SR carries weight but Donner's views on the film are meaningless. Here is you link buddy read it and weep. Donner is also on record for saying that after he and Mankiewicz saw the film they felt that the torch had officially been passed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5164424.stm
Of course Donner loved it Singer basically made a 2 and a half hour love letter to Donner and his work as oppossed to his own movie.
You HAVE to be an idiot to think someone with a LOT invested in WB would EVER speak what they TRULY felt about their product.
Do you REALLY think Donner didn't get some nice change for the "Richard Donner Cut" of Superman II?
And in the end, it all comes down to this: There is NO accounting for taste. Especially when it's BAD.
"You HAVE to be an idiot to think someone with a LOT invested in WB would EVER speak what they TRULY felt about their product."
Donner said for years that he hated Superman 2 he never hid that fact. His views on that film did not affect his deals with WB and the Lethal Weapon movies. This is a pathetic argument you are trying to make here. If i posted a poll that asked the question, Is Donner telling the truth about how much he liked SR or is he just some corporate lacky who is lieing his butt off? How many people are going to see it your way, not many pal.
"Donner said for years that he hated Superman 2 he never hid that fact. His views on that film did not affect his deals with WB and the Lethal Weapon movies. This is a pathetic argument you are trying to make here. If i posted a poll that asked the question, Is Donner telling the truth about how much he liked SR or is he just some corporate lacky who is lieing his butt off? How many people are going to see it your way, not many pal."
Let me guess: You'll conduct that "poll" at Bluetights, right?
Hey, fucking idiot, when you grow-up you'll learn that "corporate politics" EXISTS.
And for the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY.
Listen you can try to reason with "denialist" but you cant. You either the guy who wants to fuck my dead mother or "no matter what you post I am right and you are wrong." They cant even answer what they would fix in the movie.(4th time asking) And "denialist" who gives a fuck if Donner liked it or not. It is his opinion. Which brings up my original statement I can find 10 other people that like it.
He returns in 2009!
"Hey, fucking idiot, when you grow-up you'll learn that "corporate politics" EXISTS."
God it is just sad in life when you give someone nothing but the facts and they respond with ridiculous speculation and convince themselves they are right. When you grow up learn that everything does not always go your way and there are certain points that need to be conceded this is one of them.
"Listen you can try to reason with "denialist" but you cant. You either the guy who wants to fuck my dead mother or "no matter what you post I am right and you are wrong." They cant even answer what they would fix in the movie.(4th time asking) And "denialist" who gives a fuck if Donner liked it or not. It is his opinion. Which brings up my original statement I can find 10 other people that like it.
He returns in 2009!"
Same pussy trying to post as 2 different people again. Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.
I fucked his mother again last night. I whispered in her ear "Damn bitch, your pussy is LOOSE!". She responded with "That's my asshole.".
"God it is just sad in life when you give someone nothing but the facts and they respond with ridiculous speculation and convince themselves they are right. When you grow up learn that everything does not always go your way and there are certain points that need to be conceded this is one of them."
My quote:
"And for the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY."
Haters will not admit to anything it is the easiest way out to just say well Donner must be lieing about SR. Yeah because he just has such a long track record of dishonesty right.
"Haters will not admit to anything it is the easiest way out to just say well Donner must be lieing about SR. Yeah because he just has such a long track record of dishonesty right."
Again: "And for the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY."
"Again: "And for the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY."
If I asked you how are you doing? This would be your response. Clearly you have lost the argument and have nothing else tangible to say.
"If I asked you how are you doing? This would be your response. Clearly you have lost the argument and have nothing else tangible to say."
For the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY.
Hey "apologists" the loser above is the only one who still posts to this board(and hates the movie) he is either SSS or but ramming him now. My mother has been dead for 8 years now but it appears he dug her up and butt rammed her. Just to drive the point home how much a loser he is. How would you fix the film?(5 times right?)
Back in 2009!
What's next SSS you post an article that says Chris Reeves former hairdresser did not like SR either.
For the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY.
"Hey "apologists" the loser above is the only one who still posts to this board(and hates the movie) he is either SSS or but ramming him now. My mother has been dead for 8 years now but it appears he dug her up and butt rammed her. Just to drive the point home how much a loser he is. How would you fix the film?(5 times right?)
Back in 2009!"
Now you know how that fat bitch died....
"Now you know how that fat bitch died.... "
For the last fucking time, you retard, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING WRITE COHERENTLY.
Back at you bub. So according to you like butt ramming SSS and rotting dead fat chicks?!?! How would you fix the film? (6th time) This gets better and better. I present to you my apologist friends the last hater of Superman Returns posting on this site.
"Hey "apologists" the loser above is the only one who still posts to this board(and hates the movie) he is either SSS or but ramming him now. My mother has been dead for 8 years now but it appears he dug her up and butt rammed her. Just to drive the point home how much a loser he is. How would you fix the film?(5 times right?)
Back in 2009!"
That explains it right there. The reason you can't write with any intelligence is: You are fucking brain-damaged.
I love watching you little bitches getting fucked-up. You "Apologist" pussies must get beat-up in your real "life" too. Daily.
LOL oh yeah so now Donner is just some corporate lacky who can not be taken at his word. Yeah he was real quiet about how he was treated by the Salkinds over the years. He has said that he hated Superman 2 for years moron, he was not towing the company line then. I have seen enough baseless assinine conspiracy theories on this blog to last me a fucking lifetime. Donner really liked the film you disagree with him FINE but calling the man a liar is just flat out WRONG
NEWSFLASH idiot, the Salkinds werent affiliated with Warner Brothers. The first two Superman films werent made by Warner Brothers. I believe Wb was solely the distributor at that point in time, thye didnt own the rights to SC Comics characters until years later. So the fact that Donner bad-mouthed the Salkinds is irrelevant because he wasnt working for them.
No one's calling Donner a 'liar," he's just too far up Singer and WB's rears to take what he says seriously. When the guy is making movies for WB and his wife (Lauren Shuler DONNER) who was Singer's producer on the X films and close friend, he's not going to come out and say the film sucked.
"NEWSFLASH idiot, the Salkinds werent affiliated with Warner Brothers. The first two Superman films werent made by Warner Brothers. I believe Wb was solely the distributor at that point in time, thye didnt own the rights to SC Comics characters until years later. So the fact that Donner bad-mouthed the Salkinds is irrelevant because he wasnt working for them."
Newsflash jackass WB made a shitload of money on the Superman movies and Donner came right and said that he thought Superman 2 was awful. Yes he mainly ripped the Salkinds but he also ripped the film itself that WB distributed and made a killing on. Not taking Donner at his word is ridiculous to say the very least. This is one point that is preposterous to try and argue. So he liked the film big deal, i hate to break it to you a lot of people liked SR.
NON hated SR that is all that matters right denialists. According to you guys anyone with any credibility that says they liked the film is either a liar or delusional. That is a very mature attitude to have.
Obivously this douchebag has NO CLUE about the first 3 Superman movies, and their history.
Fuck you, you "Apologist" twats.
First off, Non didn't hate the film..He just said that they used to much CGI. He didn't mention if he thought it was boring or had no action or anything like that. Just said they used to much CGI.
I've noticed something on this blog recently. There is only two haters commenting anymore..One Cgeer who makes excellent points and doesn't just insult and the other who never has any points to make other than how many ways he likes to fuck dead mothers.
"First off, Non didn't hate the film..He just said that they used to much CGI. He didn't mention if he thought it was boring or had no action or anything like that. Just said they used to much CGI.
I've noticed something on this blog recently. There is only two haters commenting anymore..One Cgeer who makes excellent points and doesn't just insult and the other who never has any points to make other than how many ways he likes to fuck dead mothers."
First off, read the story AGAIN, you inbred piece of shit. He used the word "ruined". Sound positive to you, "Apologist" twat?
And secondly, we only have ONE "Apologist" here PRETENDING to be several.
So shut your fucking bitch mouth, asshole.
I am neither Cgeer nor am I necrophiliac, and I loathe this film. People keep making so many assumption about who is posting on here. End the debate and everyone sign up for a username, or atleast pick one in the "other" field ant stick with it. That would end the debate pretty fast.
From my perspective it seems to be the same one or two "defenders" on here all the time, if you go by grammar, sentence structure, etc.
Exactly what "people" are making assumptions? It IS the same person, and you are just repeating what I said earlier. It doesn't matter WHO is saying what, it's WHAT they are saying. And since we are giving nicknames, I'll call you "Parrot".
That lone "Apologist" is just here to "stir-up" trouble, and will be dealt with accordingly.
Actually, I'm an apologist and I'm not the one that keeps saying
Singer is back in 2009
So there are at least 2 of us here.
Swright
Actually, I'm an apologist and I'm not the one that keeps saying
Singer is back in 2009
So there are at least 2 of us here.
Swright
Sorry for that guys, my internet went nuts for a second.
Swright
Ok, see, posting NOW doesn't change what we were talking about. It WAS the same person PRETENDING to post as different people.
And "Apologists" suck.
Actually I was the other poster you were arguing with..I just kept forgetting to put my signature (which is my Supermanhomepage sig) after the posts. I'm not the guy saying Superman Returns 2009.
I doubt you will believe me, but you are arguing with 2 different posters.
swright
"I doubt you will believe me, but you are arguing with 2 different posters."
You are 100% correct. I DON'T believe you.
"Apologists" AND Superman Homepage suck.
Ok I am the guy who keeps saying
Singerman returns in 2009!
Other then you hate Superman Returns you have no proof the sequel won't be made. Though proof is mounting it will.
Work prevents me from registering so call me restart.
And anyone can answer my question "how would you fixt the film?"(i think this makes 7 times i have asked)
Actually that's ok, because I actually believe that you are posting as both apologist and hater so you can feel good about your sad life. I find it odd, how that one poster can post and usually within 20 minutes you are responding.
I believe you are that sad and pathetic.
Or you are SSS, you just wants to keep people coming back to the blog. Either way, your life has about as much worth than the shit you eat out of your mothers ass when she can't put food on your table. Because the woman is ugly, and the only ass she gets is either your pathetic ass, or the dogs.
Something else I just noticed you retarded fucknut...How could I be the same poster who posts Superman returns in 2009 when I just posted 1 minute after he did?
I'm not that fast of a typist.
swright
Ummm i think i did say my mother is dead. So instead of gophers its dogs. Dang you should open up your own sick porn site. But this site is how you dont like Superman returns so can you answer the question??? Anyone on this board??? How would you fix the movie then? (8 times) Really you can insult me all you want I don't care but I am curious what you do to fix this. Ill will tell you what if you answer I promise never to show my ugly mug or my dead mothers here again!
If you dont answer you can see Superman Returns in 2009! for the next few months while this site is open.
Restart
PS Hey me and pottie mouth the same person dont make me laugh!
"Or you are SSS, you just wants to keep people coming back to the blog. Either way, your life has about as much worth than the shit you eat out of your mothers ass when she can't put food on your table. Because the woman is ugly, and the only ass she gets is either your pathetic ass, or the dogs."
Talk about PATHETIC. Is that the best you can do, you 12 year old bitch?
If we're going to talk about Mom's, yours specifically, we don't want to talk about ugly. I took a dump in her fat mouth, came all over her bloated face and hair, then followed it up with a nice, warm bath of "yellow gold". Know what she told me the next night, while I was double fisting her anal cavern? "My little pussy of a son asked where HE can get a makeover too!".
"Apologists" and your MOM suck. And SWALLOW.
"PS Hey me and pottie mouth the same person dont make me laugh!"
Exactly. I'M not one of BS' boy-toys.
I think we've made it quite clear that the franchises only hope is waiting for a restart a la The Hulk. SSS has said, and I agree that there's just too much wrong with the first movie. Even if you get rid of Lois as a terrible Bosworth and ignore the kid, you still have a Superman who acts nothing like he should. You're also still a slave in a lot of ways to Donner's continuity from the 1st film.
I'm alos surprised the guy who's always on here talking about "SR2 in 2009!" comes from Supermanhomepage, considering that place is filled with hardline comic freaks. I was surprised Steve Younis even supported the film at all seeing as how Singer slighted him by giving his prodcution blogs to Bluetights. Then again I guess an invitation to the set will cure a lot of ills.
^ err I meant "Bosworth as a terrible Lois"
Let's not forget corporate $$.
Both Bluetights AND Superman Homepage are getting some cash on the "down low" from WB. They also have posters on the payroll to "hype" the film. Superhero Hype works ALL of the major studios.
OK that answered my question Voice of reason. I will go now never to return. Man will miss pottie mouths insult to be honest they were some of the most vile yet creative answers yet. If you do see me troll in the future i expect all of you to jump down my throat. Bye
Superman returns again in 2009!
Restart
"I'm alos surprised the guy who's always on here talking about "SR2 in 2009!" comes from Supermanhomepage, considering that place is filled with hardline comic freaks. I was surprised Steve Younis even supported the film at all seeing as how Singer slighted him by giving his prodcution blogs to Bluetights. Then again I guess an invitation to the set will cure a lot of ills. "
I am not the same guy who posts Superman REturns in 2009. But I do go to the homepage quite a lot. I always thought that Bluetights and Supermanhomepage were pretty much sister sites. I don't go to Bluetights (contrary to what some would have everyone believe), the only time I ever went there was when the production blogs were running.
But you could be right and they gave Bluetights the diary's and homepage the site visit. Did Bluetights get a set visit also?
swright
All of the major fan sites (SHH, BT, SMHP, CBR, etc) were all taken down to the sets in Oz and were allowed to interview the cast, etc. which is pretty smart on WB's part if you think about it. It's hard to be critical of someone when they fly you down to Oz for a week to visit the set of their movie.
As for the production blogs, I have no idea why they went to BT over SMHP. Perhaps those guys had an in with the studio? All I know is some of the bigwigs at SMHP like Younis and Bailey were none too happy about it.
"Donner said for years that he hated Superman 2 he never hid that fact."
Of course he said this. He was kicked off of the movie. When Warners knew they could make an extra buck off the Superman franchise posthumously (I'm speaking of Christopher AND Dana Reeve), they FINALLY listened to fans who wanted to have Richard Donner's cut of the movie. It wasn't a coincidence that they put out one of the most expensive "films" ever, and directly afterwards put out Donner's cut which cost them a fraction of the price. WB's trying to squeeze all they can out of Chris Reeve, even approving a film that is almost a word-for-word reenactment of HIS films. I know for a fact that DC's writers don't give their own opinions about the movie out loud at this point as I heard one of them compliment the film, and then severely diss it when he thought I wasn't listening... but if you think that Donner wasn't looking out for his best interests promoting the Donner Cut, then that's quite naive. It came out, what? A few months after the movie? And they were showing clips at Comic Con back when Singerman had just come out!
Of course Donner loved this movie, it was a scene for scene reenactment of his own film! Sure it's a hell of a compliment, but this movie is an insult to an audience member, especially one who knows ANYTHING about Superman.
-cgeer15
In the "Apologist" mindset, if someone "praises" the film, it's 100% HONEST. When someone like Jack O' Halloran states his dis-pleasure, he has "other motives", or "doesn't matter what HE thinks".
I LOVE Superman The Movie, it is my all-time favorite film. But I am not going to let that cloud my thinking, and say "Richard Donner has no reason to play-nice with WB, he's ALWAYS going to be on the up & up". Film Industry politics are even WORSE than corporate.
Also, when he was speaking his mind on Superman II, he had no REAL reason to fear. It wasn't financed by WB, it was the Salkinds, and WB handled the distribution and advertising. In fact, almost all of his critcisms were aimed at Richard Lester and the Salkinds. Not the film itself.
"Also, when he was speaking his mind on Superman II, he had no REAL reason to fear. It wasn't financed by WB, it was the Salkinds, and WB handled the distribution and advertising. In fact, almost all of his critcisms were aimed at Richard Lester and the Salkinds. Not the film itself."
Yes and Donner spoke his mind about SR and he said he really liked it what the fuck do you care? Why would anyone give a fuck what NON has to say? They could have shaved a fucking gorilla put him on the set and easily pulled off NON in Superman 2.
"Yes and Donner spoke his mind about SR and he said he really liked it what the fuck do you care? Why would anyone give a fuck what NON has to say? They could have shaved a fucking gorilla put him on the set and easily pulled off NON in Superman 2."
Richard Donner towed the company line, idiot.
And more people care what Non thinks, than an "Apologist" ball-licker like you.
Go fuck yourself, junior.
"Richard Donner towed the company line, idiot.
And more people care what Non thinks, than an "Apologist" ball-licker like you.
Go fuck yourself, junior."
Yeah i am sure that is what most people thought that Donner is not being honest retard. Does that make you feel better by convincing yourself he lied about liking the film? Yes lets take Non's word over Donner's lord knows he is an accomplished actor. He had as many lines in Superman 2 as i did.
"Yeah i am sure that is what most people thought that Donner is not being honest retard. Does that make you feel better by convincing yourself he lied about liking the film? Yes lets take Non's word over Donner's lord knows he is an accomplished actor. He had as many lines in Superman 2 as i did."
How many films has your ignorant ass been in, fuckwad? In fact, how many BLOCKBUSTER films has your lame ass had a role in? Exactly, you ball-sweat sucking moron.
Go fuck yourself, junior.
"Yes lets take Non's word over Donner's lord knows he is an accomplished actor. He had as many lines in Superman 2 as i did."
Yes Hollywood pretty much forced his ass into retirement in the mid-90's. I guess there were no more apelike mute roles for him to play.
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