While fans await news on the uncertain future of Singerman, Warner Bros. appears to have moved another property to the front burner.
On February 22, 2007, Variety reported that Kiernan and Michele Mulroney [pictured] were hired to write a preliminary script for a future Justice League film.Now it seems less than four months later, a first draft has been submitted, and even Variety is speculating that the "superteam" might eclipse Singerman.
Here is the latest article on the film, as posted in Variety this past Friday, June 15th:
One of the more ambitious projects around town - the bigscreen adaptation of DC Comics' "Justice League" - cleared a major hurdle last week.
Husband-wife writing duo Kieran Mulroney and Michele Mulroney turned in a first draft that had Warner Bros. suits actually smiling - no small feat, considering "Justice" follows a half-dozen of the best-known superheroes working together, including Batman and Superman.
But the accomplishment raises a tricky question for Warners: Should it release "Justice" before its "Superman Returns" sequel?
Christopher Nolan's next Batman pic "The Dark Knight" bows in July 2008. Bryan Singer's "Superman" follow-up had been expected to play in 2009. But there's no script yet for that pic, while Singer is busy getting ready to shot Tom Cruise starrer "Valkyrie" for UA.
The question now: Will a souped-up "Justice League" prove to be Kryptonite to Superman?
Superman fans know how much Singerman was 'teh suck.' We can only hope this news about a JLA film means Warner Bros. has finally realized it too.
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And awaaaaaay we go...!
you guys hear that?
It's the sound of victory
Reeve = Superman
Routh = Bizarro
Welling = Superman
Routh = Zero
What the fuck is a "Routh"??
Once again it is Smallville that is setting the trend for Supes on the sliver screen, If you can remember it was all the positive buzz from the Justice episode of SV that first started the Justice League film rumors.
It is a grand idea which would be awesome if done right but given DC's and Warners tendancy to take forever to get these damn things out it is unlikely to happen anytime soon. This is a project much bigger than any Batman or Superman movie not too mention risky. The budget for this would sure to be huge and if it does not work then WB would probably be reluctant to do just about any other comic movie in the near future. God imagine the fanboys arguing over this one with so many of their heroes in one movie battling for face time, it could get awful ugly.
Welling = Superman in the JLA movie.
They could do better than Welling. Give it to someone who actually has talent and wants the role.
"The budget for this would sure to be huge and if it does not work then WB would probably be reluctant to do just about any other comic movie in the near future."
That is very much true. I mean is WB really going to backburn all of their comic franchises including Batman after The Dark Knight just to make this movie? The film would have to be a smash or your right they would be scared to do any comic movie again for a long time. WB needs to get to work on a Green Latern movie and the flash movie. Either get Singer to make serious changes in Superman or get rid of him and go in a new direction. Now is not the time for a JL movie though.
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Maybe WB is so desperate for a smash comic book hit like Spiderman they are willing to go for broke right now with a JL movie. It is a risky as hell decision because of the expense and what you said about maybe wrecking any chance of other DC characters like the Flash and GL getting their own movies anytime in the near future. I say if they love the script that much and can get the perfect director then go for it but they had better be damn sure it will work.
yet another ominous sign for the Singerman franchise.
I wouldnt doubt that the ratings success that Smallville's Justice League episode had didnt influence this in at least some fashion.
This is going to be a difficuly project to pull off correctly. They're going to need a BIG TIME director for this sort of project, like a Wolfgang Peterson or Peter Jackson type, someone who's skilled at weaving multiple storylines between multiple leading characters, and who can do an action film justice.
I think WB liked about 100 Superman scripts before SR got made. This is a real longshot guys it just such a huge risky project for WB. Why would they do this now when they have yet to make movies with many great DC characters? I agree with the other poster if it fails then those other projects are not happening anytime soon. Singerman sucked that can go in the can for a while for all i care but GL and Flash those have great potential and should come before any JL movie.
the thing is, WB has seen the films made for Marvel's lesser characters (Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Punisher, etc) and has seen them have modest success at best. They've also seen the big successes of the team-based Marvel films like X-men and to a lesser extent Fantastic Four.
They also havent had tremendous success with their own big 2 characters, so they're probably a bit gun shy to do films about their lesser knowns like Flash, GL, etc. I can see the logic in it making sense to do one big film and go for the home run with the JLA as opposed to hoping for the best with films of the individual characters
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Well i think it all comes down to how you do it. Nobody saw the success of Spiderman coming but they had a great script and a director in Raimi that really got the character and away they went. I agree with what someone else said in that the budget for this would sure to be huge and it if fails then WB is probably going to be gunshy about any future comic films expcept maybe Batman depending on how The Dark Knight turns out. I would rather see them wait on this. Get Singer to make a lot of changes to Superman or fire him and start fresh. Try to get going the Flash and GL movies before you go for broke with a JL film. Think of how big the film could be years down the line if WB is able to make several successful films in a row with many of the DC characters that will be in the JL movie. Then people would be so jazzed for the JL movie it would be insane.
A JL movie what an awful idea that is. Maybe WB should just make a Power Ranger movie while they are at it.
there are two powerrangers movies in existence and though neither of them were terribly good I'd be overjoyed with a more serious, epic, powerrangers film than another sequel overstuffed with cgi that's made to sell action figures.
Hey hollywood, newsflash. movies are an art-form.
I don't think any serious actor would be caught dead in a movie like this. It's likelihood of being really cheesy is extremely high. Yeah you could get Routh for this since all he has is Superman but Bale would probably laugh at this project. Who would play Hawkman, now there is a character easy to pull off and not make look silly. The guy has a mask shaped like a bird and Wings coming out of his ASS!!
I'm assuming a JLA movie would be Supes, Bats, Wonder Woman, GL, Flash, Manhunter, and maybe Aquaman similar to the cartoons. I doubt whether they'd get into characters like Green Arrow, Hawkman, The Atom or Black Canary.
"I'm assuming a JLA movie would be Supes, Bats, Wonder Woman, GL, Flash, Manhunter, and maybe Aquaman similar to the cartoons. I doubt whether they'd get into characters like Green Arrow, Hawkman, The Atom or Black Canary"
I agree...I think the JLA movie is going to be hard enough without having characters like Hawkman around. The problem with the JLS is that the hero's have incredible powers and where bright shiny and corny costumes. It's going to be hard to make people not laugh at this. It's not like the XMEN where the powers weren't that over the top and the people are more relatable. So they are goint to have their work cut out for them to keep it just north of Fantastic Four territory.
It can be done though, so I'm really looking forward to it if they go ahead and do it.
"It can be done though, so I'm really looking forward to it if they go ahead and do it."
Credit where credit's due, well said sir. See we don't need (or deserve)another Singershambles
God Bless,
Father Finian Egan
He is not saying he does not want a Returns sequel he is a fan of SR he is simply saying this is something he would like to see as well.
"See we don't need (or deserve)another Singershambles"
I never said that I needed to see a sequel, just that I would like it if they did do one. I liked the movie (obviously), but if I'm going to get Superman as part of a JLA movie then I am just fine with that.
Swright this movie has little chance to be anything but a cheesy mess, not too mention a casting diaster. You think Bale would touch something like this, no chance the likelihood of it sucking is way too high.
"He is not saying he does not want a Returns sequel he is...."
He can speak for himself jackass.
You'll find plenty of folks more confident in a JLA film than Singer coming back for a Returns sequel that's for sure.
God Bless,
Father Finian Egan
"You think Bale would touch something like this, no chance the likelihood of it sucking is way too high. "
It honestly depends...If the cheese factor is incredibly high then I doubt it would even get made. It needs to be a lot different then what we've seen on TV and the comics for it to even get made. I do not want a JLA movie in the same vain as Fantastic Four. It HAS to be taken seriously by the audience.
And even if it was a bit cheesy, I think Bale would do it for the right price..Let's remember that this is the guy that did SHAFT and REIGN OF FIRE. Try and rewatch those without cringing.
"Let's remember that this is the guy that did...REIGN OF FIRE. Try and rewatch those without cringing."
That explains your film tastes right there, and why you "like" Singerman Repugnant.
You "cringe" watching Reign of Fire, but have MINIMAL problems with Singerman? You say ROF is "cheesy", but "Defend" Singerman Peeps?? YOU sir, are NO Gene Siskel.
"You "cringe" watching Reign of Fire, but have MINIMAL problems with Singerman? You say ROF is "cheesy", but "Defend" Singerman Peeps?? YOU sir, are NO Gene Siskel."
Sorry man, but Matthew Moconahey (or however the hell you spell his name) is Cheese personified in that film, and his American soldier is so blatantly over the top, that as a brother of a US Marine, it kind of ticked me off. And what I meant was that CB did a film about DRAGONS. I don't think he would have that much of a problem doing a JLA film as long as it's not FF level cheese.
And I like how you edited my quote so you can make your point.
Singer's ability to cast decent actors is minimal at best, look at both X-Men movies, aside from a certain few, the rest were, MEH.
Of all the decent actors that auditioned for the role, he went with SuperBlandonRouth, so Routh, at least to me, would be perfect in this movie.
He would be part of a larger cast that could hopefully make up for, or at least hide, his lack of acting talent, charisma, and blandness.
So, no to Singerman II and Blandon Routh, yes to Routh being pushed aside in whatever JLA movie they want to make.
"And I like how you edited my quote so you can make your point."
Hey genius, that's what the "..." were for. Meaning there was more that was cut out. Not too bright, are you REtard?
And at least there were no "rubber fetish suits" in Reign of Fire...
I could see Warners making this film in an effort to kick start a bunch of other franchises. If they're trying to feel out the market for, say, Flash or GL solo films, this isn't a bad way to do it. Plus, this would provide a good segue into replacing Singerman with, y'know, an *actual* Superman? Maybe they'll use Welling, maybe they'll hire someone new, who knows? But the point is that this is the perfect way to get rid of Singerman. Myself, I have no doubt that Christian Bale might have some interest in the film if the money's right.
As for which heroes to use, I'd say go classic and use Batman, Superman, the Flash, Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
Routh was first brought in to audtion for the role by McG, and McG didnt even like him. That right there should've told you something.
AS for Singer's "casting abilities" I think his ability to cast superheroes is poor at best. Halle Berry as Storm? James Marsden as Cyclops? Even the ones that worked out in Ian "Queerer than a $2 bill" McKellan and Hugh Jackman were NOTHING like their comic counterparts. Atleast in their case though they were classically trained thespians and in the case of Jackman, Singer pretty much lucked in to that after having a dispute with Dougray Scott, the original actor hr chose for Wolverine (how bad would that've been?) Routh was a soap opera reject, and it showed in his balsa wood like performance. No wonder people are beggin for Welling to be Superman. Compared to Routh, Welling looks like Sir Laurence Olivier.
"No wonder people are beggin for Welling to be Superman. Compared to Routh, Welling looks like Sir Laurence Olivier."
The Smallville fanboys are whining about Routh and want Welling you got one problem Welling has no love for Superman and wants no part of playing him in a movie. The guy has it in his contract on SV that he does not have to wear the suit he is an asshole big time. The Gen public liked Routh very much he was the one thing most agreed was good about Returns.
Holy Shit this movie is a year old give it a rest. I last came here 6 months ago and you idiots are still whining about the same shit. Get lives assholes please.
I am back. Still being confused with Swright. No one said AP had brains. I agree with the above. SSS idealistic crusade helps nothing I think he should sign this blog over to me. And as SSS loves to point out Justice League is NOT GREENLIGHT!!!Also how many scripts did we get before returns? Burton, Smith, etc.?? Justice League will flounder over budget way before 2009 when........
Superman's sequel flies high.
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And for those who think I post as another your "WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"Justice League is NOT GREENLIGHT!!!"
Who else could it be? Fuckin Retard
"The Gen public liked Routh very much he was the one thing most agreed was good about Returns."
Yeah, right. They just can't get enough of him, can they? I mean he's fuckin everywhere since Returns, isn't he??
Fuckin wake up you sheep. You may believe that Singer spin about Routh being liked, but back here in the real world that bullshit has no evidence to support it. You even speak of him like he's a real person.
In short...Routh(who?)
Father Finian Egan
"McKellan and Hugh Jackman were NOTHING like their comic counterparts. Atleast in their case though they were classically trained thespians"
It's by now obvious that Singer's homosexuality comes into play when casting. The boy just can't help himself.
1. McKellan:Well known fag actor
2. Jackman: Famous for playing well known Australian fag entertainer, Peter Allen, on Broadway. Can sing and dance. Plays maracas. Huge gay following.
3. Kevin Spacey: Repeat fag casting. Got beat up "walking his dog" late one night in the UK.
4. Bwandon Wouth: Forgotten young fag actor from '06. Will wear fetish suit if required.............................anyway you can see the pattern. And who's he working with next???
TOM FUCKIN CRUISE
Ohhhh man. You have to be kidding me. As if it's not obvious by now
I love how father/anny just breeze over my multiple script comments for superman. I also love how everyone here complains on Singer's direction, but does nothing to support WB from making more comic movies. If I was a WB exec reading this site i would put off any comic book movie till the cows come home. Also, need I remind this site of the Justice League Fiasco a few years ago? Do a search...."i am the weatherman" Pathetic....like most people who come here. This is why we should all support..............
Superman in 2009!
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Day in and day out I prove how stupid you all are. Not one of you denialist brought up the failed series.
SSS Dragon Con in atlanta is the convention of my choice.
"And at least there were no "rubber fetish suits" in Reign of Fire... "
Nope just a half naked MattM through the entire film. Sweating and grunting with dirty men..Nope, no homoeroticism there.
"Fuckin wake up you sheep. You may believe that Singer spin about Routh being liked, but back here in the real world that bullshit has no evidence to support it. You even speak of him like he's a real person."
It is awful sad that you see this BLOG and the people that comprise it as reality in regards to what people think as a whole.
"McKellan and Hugh Jackman were NOTHING like their comic counterparts. Atleast in their case though they were classically trained thespians"
It's by now obvious that Singer's homosexuality comes into play when casting. The boy just can't help himself.
1. McKellan:Well known fag actor
2. Jackman: Famous for playing well known Australian fag entertainer, Peter Allen, on Broadway. Can sing and dance. Plays maracas. Huge gay following.
3. Kevin Spacey: Repeat fag casting. Got beat up "walking his dog" late one night in the UK.
4. Bwandon Wouth: Forgotten young fag actor from '06. Will wear fetish suit if required.............................anyway you can see the pattern. And who's he working with next???
TOM FUCKIN CRUISE
Ohhhh man. You have to be kidding me. As if it's not obvious by now"
What the hell is it like being so fucking ignorant??
A Justice League live action film=Mystery Men
Something things might be better off left in animation.
"Nope just a half naked MattM through the entire film. Sweating and grunting with dirty men..Nope, no homoeroticism there."
Yep, kinda like Singerman on his hands and knees getting "stabbed" from behind by Lex Luthor, after a "prison shower room beating" by his boy-toys huh? Nope, no OVERT homosexual fantasy there, right?
"Pathetic....like most people who come here."
Ain't this like the "pot" calling the "kettle" a "pot"?? And this fucking ladyboy says this while POSTING here.
God, taking those facials from BS must have melted his brain or something.....
"Yep, kinda like Singerman on his hands and knees getting "stabbed" from behind by Lex Luthor, after a "prison shower room beating" by his boy-toys huh? Nope, no OVERT homosexual fantasy there, right?"
Wow you really must have some big time emotional problems.
"What the hell is it like being so fucking ignorant??"
Wow, what a comeback after having been presented with evidence of fag casting. Sad you weren't cast too, or that you missed out on the gay ol' time in Sydney??rayqxaps
"Wow, what a comeback after having been presented with evidence of fag casting. Sad you weren't cast too, or that you missed out on the gay ol' time in Sydney??rayqxaps"
By using the word FAG you have further labeled yourself an ignorant Bigot congratulations.
"...labeled yourself an ignorant Bigot"
Oh look, the comic book nerd is back. You fag!
Boys, boys, remember...
homosexuality is a sin against God,
Father Finian Egan
"Oh look, the comic book nerd is back. You fag!"
Say What!
By the way anyone see FF2's shitty week 2 results at the BO. Yet another comic movie that's opening weekend was as good or better than Returns and will fall way short of it domestic and WW take at the BO. Tell me again assholes how SR got bad word of mouth. The facts just don't support that theory. I heard this shit from you guys when Ghost Rider came out making 45 mil opening weekend compared to SR 52 mil. Oh yeah that will outgross or equal returns, yeah it only made 115 mil at the BO. Face it returns got good word of mouth period the stats back me up your opinions carry little to no weight on this one.
wow instead of making great points like me...(see above if you guys can read)...they just play the fag game. It makes me laugh for i bet all those homophobes above (father/ap/sss) are getting corn holed right now or want to be dominated by some guys. No one mentioned the Justice League series pilot like I did. But alas, butch men liking the bean pole rather call everyone else fags. I am going to bang my girlfriend now since there is way too much female hormones to fill a boat.
Man of steel will be back in 2009!
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So father/AP/SSS do you use lube in your threesomes? :-)
Definition of "Clueless": Brandon Routh when asked by EW about the sequel.
Poor Bwandon, talk about living in hope. As far as he remembers being told, shooting should start "early next year"
Steve Younis was heard to breathe a sigh of relief in being able to report "good news" about the status of the YET TO BE GREENLIT sequel.
Actually if you read the article it's more about the success of "Heroes" and it portrays Wouth as a forgotten ex-Hero whose career is now in limbo
"No one mentioned the Justice League series pilot like I did"
Yeah I'm sure Warners will put the same amount of effort into the proposed big screen adaption as they did in that TVM! In fact the TVM had nearly as goofy as costumes as the goofy ass costume Routh wore in Returns! In fact it's good of you that you brought the TV JLA movie up because in a way it parallels many of the problems that Returns suffered from...poor casting, poor costume updates, unbelievably lame villian, it too was made by people with no understanding of the subject matter, unconvincing effects.
Strangely though, the nameless stars of the JL movie actually went on to viable onscreen acting careers to this day, unlike whatisname from Returns.
Jesus Christ. Younis is now bragging about how his site is mentioned in some comic book guide for queers.
There's Singer's demographic again, fags and Jar Jar Binks defenders
God Bless,
Father Finian Egan
Wow father must love being banged in the corn hole just can't let it go. Hey father can you post just once not mentioning gays? Didnt think so! You are a father where are your choir boys....oh down your robe got it. But speaking about Script stage. No one needs to look further then this site for movies that scripts were submitted but never filmed......like this article
http://singerssupermansucks.blogspot.com/search/label/Kevin%20Smith
Boy SSS makes it just too easy. Well at least after Val. Singer and start filming and......
Man of steel opening in 2009!
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Watch after this post is ignored anny/father will talk about gays. Anny do you have any proof that the movie version will be better then the TVM tavesty? To save $$ no named actors will be cast and you losers complain about Routh....wait till JLU is cast. Can you say Gateway guy for G. L.!
Retard, when your thinking of what to post, does it make sense in your head or do you just have mental diarrhea that spills out onto the keyboard and then in a convulsive ADD fit, hit the enter key?
Your obsession with trying to disprove things on this blog, and for the most part, things that arent on the blog, is a bit sad. I'm sure your comebacks and lame one-liners work well at the 'School for the Gifted" that you attend whilst wearing a protective helmet, but here it's just sad and pathetic. I feel bad for people like you, I really do.
"Strangely though, the nameless stars of the JL movie actually went on to viable onscreen acting careers to this day, unlike whatisname from Returns. "
Who starred in that? I really would like to know.
"Jesus Christ. Younis is now bragging about how his site is mentioned in some comic book guide for queers."
I know it's hard to come to terms with here Father, but the site is a main source for information on all things Superman.
Oh and what site wouldn't brag if it was mentioned on a DVD or comic book? Hell SSS bragged that the guys over at Warners are aware of this site and NOBODY said a thing. It's just natural to be proud of what you accomplish.
"Wow you really must have some big time emotional problems."
Not as bad as your mommy and daddy, for having "unleashed" your retarded self on the world. I hate them, as I'm sure most who have come across your dim-witted ass do.
Go fuck yourself, junior.
"So father/AP/SSS do you use lube in your threesomes? :-)"
You only ask because you DIDN'T when taking on BS and little Brandon "My Career Went Routh". Glad to hear you stopped the bleeding, but I bet you're STILL chaffed down there.
Does BS' tongue relieve some of the discomfort, REtard??
"Who starred in that? I really would like to know."
Seeing you can't be bothered looking it up yourself doesn't negate my statement fuckwit....
Matthew Settle, Kym Oja, John Kassir, Michelle Hurd, David Ogden Stiers....no A list celebs but all still busily working in the industry and none have had to resort to selling autographs or appearing at parties in their costumes!
"...but the site is a main source for information on all things Superman."
Again, we know that's bullshit(Razzie?). Take your Younis goggles off you sheep.
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"Matthew Settle, Kym Oja, John Kassir, Michelle Hurd, David Ogden Stiers....no A list celebs but all still busily working in the industry and none have had to resort to selling autographs or appearing at parties in their costumes!"
I have never heard of any of those people. You do realize that Chris Reeve himself once appeared at an autograph session just like the one that BR did. Elijah Wood did so as well. I am sure you know it is hard for actors who have played Superman to not be typecast so Brandon is going to have to deal with the same thing. Nobody who has ever played Superman went on to great fame in many other roles. It just has never really happened.
Again, for the retards.....
Actors can SUPPLEMENT their income with autograph sessions
For Routh though, autograph sessions ARE his income.
Nice try jackass,
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"For Routh though, autograph sessions ARE his income."
What are you his accountant you have no idea what the hell you are saying? He has only appeared at one major session so if that is his only source of income he would need to be doing it a lot more. Some of these hacks that have been in Star Trek movies or TV shows, show up to those things a million times a year. They are in desperate need of money and work. He also had a role in 2 small films that are both in post-production. Nobody is saying Routh is rolling in cash but your assertion that he needs those autograph sessions because it is his only income is completely wrong. Do some research next time when you are looking to trash someone.
"He also had a role in 2 small films that are both in post-production"
Wow. That autograph selling will come in handy then, jackass
"Some of these hacks that have been in Star Trek movies or TV shows"
You miss the point, willingly
Those "hacks" are just that, not BRANDON ROUTH, the "hot, new" lead actor of a 270 million dollar MAJOR MOTION PICTURE about the iconic character SUPERMAN. How could Routh be seen to fail after that??
You follow THAT with selling your autograph and appearing in a couple of indie films and you're pretty much spelling out to all concerned how someone can be seen to fail...
...and before we get more of the "Chris Reeve never did much either" bullshit again, how about looking up the guy's body of work after Superman before trying to convince people he was only known for the tragic accident
Father Finian Egan
(Terminal)
"...and before we get more of the "Chris Reeve never did much either" bullshit again, how about looking up the guy's body of work after Superman before trying to convince people he was only known for the tragic accident"
Because that would make them realize that Brandon's career really DID go "Routh"?
Come on man, they are APOLOGISTS!! That right there tells you they are ignorant from the get-go.
"I am sure you know it is hard for actors who have played Superman to not be typecast so Brandon is going to have to deal with the same thing."
Since when did Routh play SUPERMAN?? All I know is THAT slab of No-Talent played a whiney, crying BITCH.
Singerman? Maybe. Superman? Never.
"You miss the point, willingly
Those "hacks" are just that, not BRANDON ROUTH, the "hot, new" lead actor of a 270 million dollar MAJOR MOTION PICTURE about the iconic character SUPERMAN. How could Routh be seen to fail after that??
You follow THAT with selling your autograph and appearing in a couple of indie films and you're pretty much spelling out to all concerned how someone can be seen to fail..."
No you have missed the point and backed yourself into a corner all at once. You said that some actors do that to supplemant their incomes like Elijah Wood and Chris Reeve also at one time. Then you said that BR does it because that is his income. If he has only done one major session how the hell does what you are saying ring true? He clearly falls into the supplemantal income category that you talked about. Chris Reeve found work after Superman but never any major success. Name me one hit he was in after Superman? Hell even the last 2 Superman movies were flops. Chris was the better actor don't get me wrong but BR is way too young to bury his career at this point.
"how about looking up the guy's body of work after Superman before trying to convince people he was only known for the tragic accident"
Ok no problem i see one flop after another that he was in so what is your point?
"Name me one hit he was in after Superman?"
You ignorant jackass
"Somewhere In Time" "Deathtrap" "The Aviator" "Switching Channels"
All before your time, no doubt
Wood, Reeve all have runs on the board. What the fuck is a Routh?
"You ignorant jackass
"Somewhere In Time" "Deathtrap" "The Aviator" "Switching Channels"
All before your time, no doubt"
Time for BED son you have had way to much to drink. Somewhere in Time BO= 9 mil, Deathtrap BO= 19 mil, The Aviator BO= 1.3 mil wow that is a smash hit, Switiching Channels BO= 9 mil. Anything else you want to embarass yourself with or are you ready to pack it in?
"Ok no problem i see one flop after another that he was in so what is your point?"
I'll type it slower for you.
See the long list of films he worked on after Superman?
You also claim to see one flop after another, yet another misrepresentation.
Routh flogs his autograph, appears in costume for kiddies parties and has appeared in a couple of indie films.....and yet some still want to believe Wouth is the best thing since sliced bread.
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"See the long list of films he worked on after Superman?
You also claim to see one flop after another, yet another misrepresentation."
So in your world a film that makes 1.3 mil is a hit. 9 mil is a hit and so forth are you ok have you sufferered any recent head injuries. Plus you are citing some films that came out 7-10 years after STM. Routh is 27 and it is has been one year since SR came out.
"9 mil is a hit and so forth..."
Back when it cost 5 million to make that film, yes.
Apply "adjusted for inflation" if you must
But I am willing to wait to see who will be most remembered in the long run, Reeve or Routh!
When Tom Welling is more associated with Superman than Wouth it takes a fool (or a fag) to sing the praises of Rubber Routh
Look everyone, come see, there's a Brandon Routh fan in our midst!!
Well there's something you don't see everyday.
Brandon Routh, The Fallen Gay Icon
You see the big difference though is that Christopher Reeve played Superman four times on the big screen and later guested on Smallville.
Brandon Wouth was forgotten not even a year after he unsuccessfully attempted to imitate Christopher Reeve as Superman.
The problem with giving Wouth lines from the earlier films was yet ANOTHER dumbass idea from Singer. It only proved to all that Reeve pulled off those lines sooo much better.
Remember, homosexuality is a sin.
Father Finian Egan
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"Back when it cost 5 million to make that film, yes.
Apply "adjusted for inflation" if you must
But I am willing to wait to see who will be most remembered in the long run, Reeve or Routh!"
Reeve will for sure for his role as Superman and his amazing fight that he endured in life. However he was not a star in anything else as an actor he just wasn't. You can't ignore facts, everything else he did was not a success it is what it is. When Reeve himself expressed great dissapointment about his career outside of Superman you look a little nuts trying to argue it was a success.
"You see the big difference though is that Christopher Reeve played Superman four times on the big screen and later guested on Smallville."
Routh will be playing Superman again in the sequel and 2 times Reeve played Superman the films sucked and bombed at the BO. Especially Superman 4, widely seen as maybe the worst comic movie of all time.
"Routh will be playing Superman again"
Who?
And you base this on what? Blind faith in the crap Younis publishes as fact?
Very credible, someone who bashes Reeve and praises Routh!
"Especially Superman Returns, widely seen as maybe the worst comic movie of all time."
Terminal
...actually that's unfair on Younis. Even he wouldn't go so far as to state Routh is definitely going to be seen as Superman in any forum other than a kid's party anymore!
"and 2 times Reeve played Superman the films sucked and bombed at the BO."
Who is this retard?? Three was dodgy, but hardly a "bomb" Don't let the truth get in the way of your opinion fuckwit
"And you base this on what? Blind faith in the crap Younis publishes as fact?
Very credible, someone who bashes Reeve and praises Routh!
"Especially Superman Returns, widely seen as maybe the worst comic movie of all time."
What is with you guys and Younis? What the hell have you done for Superman? He runs a site that is dedicated to all things Superman and it is very popular. It is not a SR site. You jackasses here talk non-stop shit about him because he liked Returns. So what if he liked Superman 2 and hated STM does that make him an asshole as well? You guys are fucked in the head really.
"Who is this retard?? Three was dodgy, but hardly a "bomb" Don't let the truth get in the way of your opinion fuckwit"
WB pulled out of Supergirl after Superman 3 was done at the BO. What does that tell you about the film's success or lack of it??
Will you asholes give it a rest already? The film is a year OLD move the fuck on.
"So what if he liked Superman 2 and hated STM does that make him an asshole as well?"
Well, yes obviously. I didn't know that though. Jeez, says it all really, what a jackass.
"What does that tell you about the film's success or lack of it??"
Here on planet Earth we like to stick to the facts. The B.O. as evidenced by IMDB for instance tells you of the film's success or lack of it, not what you believe. Who wouldn't pull out of Supergirl though?
"What the hell have you done for Superman?"
Only demand that the character deserves better than the mediocrity dished up by Singer and worshipped by Younis as the pinnacle of movie making.
You sheep who rush in to defend Younis just keep on making him look more of a fool. Now you tell us he disliked STM???!!!
What a jackass
Terminal
"Will you asholes give it a rest already?"
There can be no rest until the threat of Singer returning is stopped. Until then, go forward with all your beliefs and prove to me that I'm not mistaken in mine.
Terminal
STILL MORE YOUNIS FANTASIES!
Now he's posted Routh's(who?) SPACEY(what?)acceptance speech as further proof of the sequel.
Funnily enough Routh(who?)goes so far as to reassure viewers that the next one "will be better, er bigger"
Interestingly though he does hint at Canada as a possible shooting location. Either he's getting mixed up with Smallville, or Warners have realised that Sydney does not look like the U.S.A. Then again, Routh doesn't look like Superman and Bosworth doesn't look human, so what's the fuckin point?
Anyhoo, so much for offsetting the cost of the sequel by reusing the "already built" sets of the first film!
Younis, just post some actual "news"
Terminal
"Singer is busy getting ready to shot Tom Cruise starrer "Valkyrie" for UA."
..and now they've been kicked out of Germany! Good, good, more delays.
I didn't realise how gay the cast of "Valkyrie" was..Cruise, Stephen Fry, Eddie Izzard. Singer certainly likes to surround himself with other fags doesn't he
Hold up, if your name is Terminal from the Homepage then why are you posting here? Last I checked you were a Superman Returns apologist at the Homepage, and a Smallville basher.
Someone needs to read up a bit on Christopher Reeeve. In addition to being a graduate of Juliard where he was a classically-trained theater actor, Reeve did many things on the stage and screen. Superman may be the role he is best known for, but a lot of that had more to do with his own career choices than it did type-casting.
After Superman, Reeve turned down the lead role in American Gigolo (1980) which went to Richard Gere. Turned down the role of Fletcher Christian in The Bounty (1984) which went to Mel Gibson. Turned down the lead role in Body Heat (1981) which went to John Hurt. He turned down the role of Mason Verger in Hannibal (2001) which went to Gary Oldman. In 1976, turned down the role of Mark Harris in "The Man from Atlantis" (1977) which went to Patrick Duffy. He turned down the role of Jack T. Colton in Romancing the Stone (1984) which went to Michael Douglas. He also turned down the lead role in The Running Man (1987) which went to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Reeve basically eschewed superstardom and chose to work on more "artsy" faire which was more in line with his background. Had he taken all of those big roles offered to him, it's not hard to assume he could've enjoyed the same career success as a Harrison Ford, who jumped around from legensary film franchises without being typecast.
"Last I checked you were a Superman Returns apologist at the Homepage, and a Smallville basher."
Isn't that what they want you to hear?
T
"Isn't that what they want you to hear?"
Dude, if you are the same Terminal then you and I have agreed alot about SR at the homepage and disagreed a lot on Smallville. So if you are the same one, I don't get why you are on here trashing the movie when at the site you are one of the backers of Singer and the movie?
nice to see some of the other sites like Moviehole, etc. finally picking up this story, only 10 days after this site.
"Reeve basically eschewed superstardom and chose to work on more "artsy" faire which was more in line with his background. Had he taken all of those big roles offered to him, it's not hard to assume he could've enjoyed the same career success as a Harrison Ford, who jumped around from legensary film franchises without being typecast."
The point is that he didn't take those roles. That is like saying if Patrick Ewing played with Micael Jordan he would have won 10 titles. Guess what it never happened. You can't trash Routh one year after SR came out and use Reeve as a measuring stick for great success outside of Superman in films. He did not have any. What he could have done is meaningless, he didn't do it. Nobody has ever had great success outside of Superman who has played him.
"You sheep who rush in to defend Younis just keep on making him look more of a fool. Now you tell us he disliked STM???!!!"
NO what i did was pose to you a hypothetical. I don't expect you to read what is actually written or even undersatnd it since you said yesterday that in your mind a film that made 1.3 mil at the BO is a HIT.
"You can't trash Routh one year after SR came out and use Reeve as a measuring stick for great success outside of Superman in films."
Yes you can. For the ignorant amongst us.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Reeve
"I don't get why you are on here trashing the movie when at the site you are one of the backers of Singer and the movie?"
Of course you wouldn't. You're an apologist.
"NO what i did was pose to you a hypothetical.....since you said yesterday that in your mind a film that made 1.3 mil at the BO is a HIT."
Huh? Nice spin. Keep trying to defend gayboy Wouth.
What do you mean subtoatal??
http://www.reference.com/search?q=sub%20total&r=d&db=web
"Yes you can. For the ignorant amongst us.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Reeve"
Ground already covered read above jackass. Chris Reeve's list of BO DUDS is my point. Which dud would you like to discuss first, do some homework son.
What's next you are going to say Dean Cain is an international movie star the likes of Brad Pitt.
"What's next you are going to say Dean Cain is an international movie star the likes of Brad Pitt."
You know I'd almost prefer Wouth to Cain. ALMOST...at least Cain played Supes in his own way and not try and impersonate someone else who set the benchmark....and Cain has not been out of acting work since.
Typical though that you'd draw such a long bow. Cain was and remains a TV star. He didn't portray Superman in a massively hyped mega million dollar movie and have his face plastered on every Cornflakes box around the world only to vanish into obscurity less than a year later like Wouth
What gets me is the offence apologists take in seeing Singer and his posse described as fags, which of course they are, yet they are prepared to denigrate Christopher Reeve's memory!
Pour shit on me all you like. Hate Welling with a passion if you wish but have the decency to leave Reeve alone because you are grossly misrepresenting his film career anyway
"Of course you wouldn't. You're an apologist."
Not only that swright also believes that moving the proposed sequel to Canada would save money by not having to ship the production back to Australia.....HUH??? So much for building those sets at Fox Studios!!!
And how's this...they can shave ALOT by shooting in some Canadian "town" that looks like Sydney!!!!
How about finding a "town" that looks like Metropolis??
Typical, no fuckin idea
Terminal
Ohhh, hang on a minute. Isn't there already an operational Daily Planet set in Canada??
Perhaps they will be filming a Superman movie in Canada soon. Perhaps Routh may not be involved. Perhaps the proposed JLA/Smallville big screen spin off is closer than a Returns sequel.
We live in hope
Terminal
"Pour shit on me all you like. Hate Welling with a passion if you wish but have the decency to leave Reeve alone because you are grossly misrepresenting his film career anyway"
How am i doing that? I loved Reeve i am not saying Routh is as good as him because he is not, Reeve is and always will be the best Superman. However facts are facts. You can tell me no his film career was fine all you want but the numbers on that issue don't lie. Reeve himself expressed dissapointment with roles he turned down and how his career in films was not successful outside of Superman. This is just the way it is i am sorry that you don't want to accept it.
"Not only that swright also believes that moving the proposed sequel to Canada would save money by not having to ship the production back to Australia.....HUH??? So much for building those sets at Fox Studios!!!
And how's this...they can shave ALOT by shooting in some Canadian "town" that looks like Sydney!!!!"
Dude, you do know that Vancouver has some of the biggest sets and facilities for making movies right?
But why aren't you defending your fucking hypocrisy? You come on here and attack the movie and everyone who likes it yet you are one of those that like the movie...And don't fucking lie, because you have been praising the movie since it came out attacking those that don't like it at the Homepage. You are a hypocritical asshole.
I can go ahead and post all of your comments and such, since you seem to want to bring my comments over. I can show everybody hear how fucking pathetic you really are. If you really hate the movie then own up to it at the Homepage, admit that you are a fucking lying hypocrit piece of shit. I'll make sure every pro SR comment you make over there comes over here now that you've decided to bring posts back and forth.
Oh and numnuts, I hate to break it to you, but moving the production to Vancouver is a helluva lot cheaper than flying everything to Australia. Vancouver is a 3 hour flight from LA...Australia, at least 7. It's more expensive to pay for the shipping of equipment and personnel...
Oh and you can call me an apologist and any name you want..You sir, are a hypocrit. At least I own up to my feelings for the movie. I don't hide it on one site and then come out when there is no moderating. You really are a fucking sad asshole.
I'm really looking forward to your posts at the Homepage now.
"I hate to break it to you, but moving the production to Vancouver is a helluva lot cheaper than flying everything to Australia."
Flying what exactly to Australia?? If you recall the budget to the sequel was to be offset because the sets had already been constructed in Sydney.....and the Canadian dollar is worth more than the Australian dollar.
Clearly though Wouth has no idea about what is going on, just like Younis and yourself
God Bless,
Terminal
"I loved Reeve i am not saying Routh is as good as him because he is not, Reeve is and always will be the best Superman."
Whew! That's all I need to know. I think we're both going to extremes over this. Let's come back in ten years time and see how Wouth's kicked on. To be perfectly honest, whilst I consider him miscast to a certain extent I shouldn't hold Wouth too responsible for the debacle that is Returns. He's a young, jobbing actor who won an amazing opportunity who worked for a lot less than he deserved for an arduous shoot because he was promised the knock on effects of the success the film would have. Sadly for him, as yet, that success hasn't materialised.
Sorry I should have addressed this first but I have only just composed myself after swright's outburst.
God Bless,
Father Terminal
"Spiderman will be buried under Superman Returns ticket sales. This is why the man of steel.....
Will return in 2009!
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Some wise words, worth remembering
You people are criminally insane. If an actor can not get work after a picture may be attributed to type casting, bad agent, poor luck, etc. I will prove my point. Where was Sam Jackson when he was 20? Or where is Jack Lloyd now? Or how about Haley Osmet? Actors come and go just like waiters in a resturant and it isnt all about lack of talent. As you hope Singer will be release I right now KNOW that WB is backing him %100. So I will sell you all razor blades when...........
The man of steel returns in 2009!
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And who gives an F who bangs what I suport the quality of returns not the quality of Stalking, home wrecking, so far against any errors Singer did Clark Kent from the crap of Smallville.
Yeah so I have a few spelling mistakes sue me! Unlike you loser Denialists i have a job.
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Superman in 2009!
"Yeah so I have a few spelling mistakes sue me!"
A few spelling mistakes? For fucks sake you're incoherent!
Btw, care to comment on your bold prediction from above?
Terminal
"And who gives an F who bangs what I suport the quality of returns not the quality of Stalking, home wrecking, so far against any errors Singer did Clark Kent from the crap of Smallville."
Look, I love Singerman Returns as much as the next fag, but that sentence makes no sense.
Neal Bailey
The point is that he didn't take those roles. That is like saying if Patrick Ewing played with Micael Jordan he would have won 10 titles. Guess what it never happened. You can't trash Routh one year after SR came out and use Reeve as a measuring stick for great success outside of Superman in films. He did not have any. What he could have done is meaningless, he didn't do it. Nobody has ever had great success outside of Superman who has played him.
No, the point is that obviously Reeve wasnt typecast if directors were offering him those roles which was were all over the spectrum. Whether or not he accepted them is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was people were beating the guy's door down after Superman The Movie, and for the most part he had no interest. Reeve was a "victim," if you want to call it that, of his own career choices not some external stigma related to playing Superman. Your Patrick Ewing analogy is flawed b/c Ewing never had the opportunity to play with Jordan and then turned it down, which is what Reeve's scenario is more analogous to.
"Actors come and go just like waiters in a restaurant"
Were you trying to be ironic, or was it just an accident? That's some funny shit right there.
Also, did you mean Jake Lloyd? If so, is there a reason you compared Routh to a couple of CHILD actors? Routh can only dream of being as lucky as Haley Joel Osment, who seems to be doing quite well for himself these days. See his IMDb page. The Jake Lloyd comparison sort of makes sense, though I think you're being awfully hard on Lloyd. The kid wasn't that bad.
As to "Sam Jackson," did you mean Samual L. Jackson? Please tell me you didn't just compare Brandon Wood to Samual L. Jackson?
gotta love the apologists and their straw man arguments. Compare SR and Routh to the shittiest movies and actors possible, and it looks like half decent. Way to go guys, or guy, should I say.
"No, the point is that obviously Reeve wasnt typecast if directors were offering him those roles which was were all over the spectrum. Whether or not he accepted them is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was people were beating the guy's door down after Superman The Movie, and for the most part he had no interest. Reeve was a "victim," if you want to call it that, of his own career choices not some external stigma related to playing Superman."
Yes Reeve had oppurtunities but Routh is 27 not 37, 27. It has been a year since Returns came out and he has been a part of two projects since. You don't know what is in front of Brandon, looks like he will be playing Superman at least once more and then we will see where he goes from there. As i said is he as good as Reeve, NO WAY, Reeve was a great actor no doubt about it. However it is not fair to bury Brandon's career at his young age and try at the same time to make Chris's career in films to be something that it was not, simply because people offered him roles that he did not want and the ones he took were bad choices that failed. In 2 or 3 years if Brandon is not being offered good roles then kill him but not yet.
Routh is, was, and always will be a soap opera reject, but you have to love those that think the public see's him as the face of superman, as so many like to say a SHH.
Nine out of ten people if they were asked on the street, who is this a picture of, wouldn't have a clue that is is SuperBlandmanRouth. The guy is a nobody with a career going nowhere.
Seems almost everyone else considered for the role of Supes seems to be thriving, while poor Routh, is lost in the shuffle.
Why would Warner's want to again attempt a Superman movie with a non-entity such as Blandon Routh. The public, and hopefully Warner's is way past this guy.
He was a washed up soap actor and unknown model. He was wooden, dull, and inconwequential in what was supposed to be the biggest movie of '06, but was a bust.
For the sake of the Superman project, please, drop Routh, and lest us move forward.
"He was a washed up soap actor and unknown model. He was wooden, dull, and inconwequential in what was supposed to be the biggest movie of '06, but was a bust.
For the sake of the Superman project, please, drop Routh, and lest us move forward."
Routh was not the reason the film did not make a billion dollars at the BO. Read the reviews listen to the people who saw the film who are not insane fanboys. People liked him. Returns was a hit but not a smash mainly thanks to Singer not making it more of a adventure movie stylishly done with action. Those people saw Pirates instead.
BLANDon Routh was the title character in the movie. And cotrary to SHH myth, BLANDon did not get universally praised for th role. He was not the great thing about a dull movie. Meryl Streep in "The Devil Wears Prada" was a great thing about a so-so movie.
The only truly great performances for last year were Cate Blanchett, Judi Dench, Helen Mirren, and a few others.
BLANDon Routh was just that, bland. The onus of the failure of this film should not be bourn by KB, and KB only. She may have been miscast, but so was Routh.
Routh was the title character, and as so, he failed to deliver. And because of that, he has disappeared from view, thankfully.
Warner's is quite aware of this. They may or may not know what went wrong, but the finger should not be pointed at Singer, and KB alone. Routh was a failure in that no one cared, and the BO suffered. He has disappeared, and may not come back again, if WB is smart.
He is not the face of Supes for the 21st century, he is a has been who never was. Good riddance, don't let the door smack you on the way out.
Bye, Bye.
"However it is not fair to bury Brandon's career at his young age.."
He's doing a perfectly good job of burying his career himself. He doesn't need assistance.
You're not Routh are you? Or his boyfriend perhaps?
You keep missing the basic point that unlike Wouth, Superman allowed Reeve the financial security to be his own man. It's disingenous to suggest that it's only about box office success. Look at Reeve's career. You overlook his humanitarian achievements, his "proper" acting like on Broadway, his aviation feats, all well before the accident.
What's Routh up to? Who knows other than a couple of indie films and selling his own autograph. He's not even seen in the dinner theater circuit!
I'm sure Brandon is a lovely guy (for a fag)who is nice to his folks and all that, but he is no Christopher Reeve.
It may be hard for younger contributers to this blog to understand that it was very different in 1978.....It would be more than fair to say that unlike the nobody who is Brandon Routh, SUPERMAN MADE CHRISTOPHER REEVE A MOVIE STAR
"I'm sure Brandon is a lovely guy (for a fag)who is nice to his folks and all that, but he is no Christopher Reeve."
The debate was going along fine and then you throw in the bigotry and lies, so typical of this BLOG.
"I'm sure Brandon is a lovely guy (for a fag)who is nice to his folks and all that, but he is no Christopher Reeve."
The debate was going along fine and then you throw in the bigotry and lies, so typical of this BLOG."
Sorry, Brandon Routh is an ass who hates his parents.
Is being a fag bad?
If I call Singer or Routh a fag it's merely an observation, not a criticism. You're the one who has a problem with queers.
"If I call Singer or Routh a fag it's merely an observation, not a criticism. You're the one who has a problem with queers."
Wow where do i start here since clearly you are uneducated?
A) Routh is engaged to marry his longtime Girlfriend and is not GAY.
B) Your sheer terminology along makes a complete and total BIGOT.
Why are so many people on this BLOG so hateful towards Gay's, what the hell does that have to do with the movie? So because Singer is gay you have to make it an issue.
"B) Your sheer terminology along makes a complete and total BIGOT."
Huh? At least my terminology makes sense.
Remember fags,
Homosexuality is a sin.
Terminal
"Remember fags,
Homosexuality is a sin.
Terminal"
So you admit to being a bigot. Not too mention clueless if you think Routh is GAY. The guy has probably eaten more pussy than any 5 of you fanboy clowns combined.
"A) Routh is engaged to marry his longtime Girlfriend and is not GAY."
Sorry, Bisexual then. What happens in Sydney stays in Sydney I suppose
Terminal
So anyway, that bisexual Routh's career since Returns hasn't been a patch on Reeve's, has it?
"Sorry, Bisexual then. What happens in Sydney stays in Sydney I suppose"
Does making shit up make you feel like a bigger man?
Steve, you should've opened your eyes on the studio tour
Well that shut him up.
Brandon Routh Is A Sin,
Terminal
I dont know, doesnt look like Routh has really been bulking up in anticipation of filming the sequel..
http://www.iesb.net/images/zoom/QPLNOH/IMG_5527.JPG
someone get this clown a protein shake
Life Is Hot in Cracktown (2008) (post-production)
Lie to Me (2008) (post-production) .... James
Yeap Routh not working, idiots thats just 2 of his projects coming out. To be honest there is only one person who posts here - AP=sss=terminal=father. They are all the same guy and they will call commit suicide when......
Superman flies in 2009!
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I am so right it hurts.
Wow, Routh’s got two heck movies coming out that’ll be playing at the backend of Community College Film Festivals.
Those low budget films he’s doing are not arthouse Oscar caliber moives like Seabiscuit or The Prestige and are certainly not going to be getting any attention screenings at the Cannes now are they?
Brandon Routh’s no hit wonder career is done.
Compare him to someone like Jon Heder who like Routh had to don a ridiculous outfit in his big screen debut but the difference is that the general public actually liked him after that turn and he’s been in multi plexus ever since unlike Routh.
Jon Heder > Brandon Routh
Boys, boys, remember...
homosexuality is a sin against God,
Father Finian Egan
^^^
That’s not what your God said last night when I stuck it to him!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Superman Returns=Batman Forever
The Man of Steel=Batman and Robin
Bryan Singer= Joel Schumacher
Routh biggest problem, beyond lack of talent, is that unlike any other actor who has been in the role, the suit overwhelmed Routh.
He didn't look comfortable, good, or believeable in the suit. He looked like a guy playing dress up for halloween, or to sign autographs at some kids party.
The role made others stars, known, and sought after. Routh, it made disappear, though not fast enough for me.
"The role made others stars, known, and sought after."
Oh yeah....It really did wonders for Dean Cain's career. Ripley's Believe it or Not would never have been the same...The role has only made 1 person sought after, and that was CR. Everyone else was typecast and had difficulty finding work.
"Yeap Routh not working, idiots thats just 2 of his projects coming out. To be honest there is only one person who posts here - AP=sss=terminal=father. They are all the same guy"
No jackass, that's the ONLY two projects he has coming out. Two indie films. Don't worry though, he's got plenty of time as Singer's next film debacle is embroiled in ever increasing Scientology turmoil in Germany.
And just to clear it up Father Finian & Terminal are the same guy, me. I was the one earlier here tackling Routh's biggest fan, Younis.
Terminal
Routh as Superman:"He looked like a guy playing dress up for halloween, or to sign autographs at some kids party."
A remarkably accurate prediction of the rest of his career
Here's a link to an interview with an obviously clueless Routh where he addresses fanboys disappointment, the Justice League and being left in the dark as to what's going on with a Returns sequel:
http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_xevidmegafx&Itemid=139&func=detail&id=969
Poor sucker
Terminal
^^
Brandon did fine in that interview the jackass that interviewed him started it out like an idiot by saying fuck the fanboys who did not like it, you could see BR had a look on his face "Uh OK". Nobody knows much of anything about this JL movie because it is not likely to happen. WB had about a million Superman scripts turned in before they finally went with Returns so nobody other than the people at the very top of WB are going to know much about the status of that project. What is it that you want Brandon to say about the sequel? There is nothing more to talk about until the script gets done and WB has a look at it. I don't remember people bugging the shit out of Bale about The Dark Knight night and day. Hell Bale even said when they were about to start that he had yet to even read a script.
"I don't remember people bugging the shit out of Bale about The Dark Knight night and day"
That's because it's future was assured much earlier surely.
"Nobody knows much of anything about this JL movie because it is not likely to happen"
Well thank you Mr Warner Brothers. Seems to me there's already a higher level of excitement about a JL movie. They're even asking the always clueless Brandon Routh about it, in case you hadn't noticed jackass.
Terminal
I tell you what though, it's a brave apologist who wants to start the comparisons between Wouth & Bale!
Perhaps there's just so many more roles to interview Bale about other than Batman......
Honestly, what else could you ask Wouth?
How much does he charge for an autograph?
How many days work did you get on those 2 indie films that nobody's interested in?
How far does a million dollars go in Hollywood these days?
Is he jealous of Tom Welling who earns so much more playing Supes and doesn't even have to wear a goofy costume?
Terminal
As an insider, i know that actors are some of the last to be contacted until a project is budgeted. So it always perplexes me why they ask the actor when a script is submitted. Routh will be back otherwise as you denialist say it will be years before the next Superman, but i know that.....
Superman will fly in 2009!
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You know I am right.
"As an insider"
LOL You mean "As a fuckwit"
Terminal
ReTard the only thing you're an "insider" on is your own ass from your head being up it all the time.
PWNED again...in 2007
"As an insider"
Oh. My. God. A fucking ILLITERATE MORON wants to claim he is now an "insider"?? The same piece of shit who thinks projects are "greenlite"?? Someone needs to inform this ladyboy that posting on BlueNuts does NOT make one an "insider".
And you KNOW I'm RIGHT.
The Rock (1996) .... John Patrick Mason
Dragonheart (1996) (voice) .... Draco
Two movies a year like the loser actor above....oh wait its Sean Conery. Man you guys are a bunch of losers. And as expected all you guys picked up was my insider comment not the statement of the budgeting proving once again that my information confirms.........
Superman returns in 2009!
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Are you guys jellous of me? How many times must i smack you down? Look how easily i handled terminal with the 2 movies a year thing, and how AP ran away for months.
ReTool, if you're trying to look like an imbecile, you've succeeded. Because only a complete moron would compare Brandon-hold-my-head-I'm-gunna-Ralph to Samuel L. Jackson and Sean Connery.
What an idiot.
so let me get this straight, out of Sean Connery's near infinite and accomplished career catalog, you've picked out two films he did in one year as an old man, both of which we're big feature films and not low budget pseudo-indie crap, and that's supposed to prove what exactly about Brandon Routh's career?
BTW they wouldnt let Routh get Sean Connery coffee for christ's sake. the fact that you're trying to compare them in anyway as it pertains to their acting careers, just proves that your mother was sniffing too much paint thinner when she was pregnant with you. Then again I guess a crack whore has to do what a crack has to do.
Man, Transformers only cost like 150 million to produce and it looks like its worth at least 200 million in SFX while SR cost like 200 without the added cost of failed projects and looks no better than an episode of Smallville on The CW.
If Time Warner wants an action packed hero epic the next time around on a tight budget they need to get someone other than Singer cause the guy as no idea how to make the most out of every dollar.
"That's because it's future was assured much earlier surely."
No it wasn't The Dark Knight did not get the green light for a very long time. It was all just talk coming mainly from Nolan about how they were prgiressing, the same kind of talk you are hearing from Singer right now. There is nothing new to talk about until at the very least they finish the script. WB is not going to decide anything until then, that is just common sense.
progressing, my bad.
"Well thank you Mr Warner Brothers. Seems to me there's already a higher level of excitement about a JL movie. They're even asking the always clueless Brandon Routh about it, in case you hadn't noticed jackass."
If you know anything about the history of WB, DC and these films you would know unlike Marvel it takes them forever to get these projects out. This would be a massive undertaking from every angle.
We can only hope that with the failure of Singerman and the dramatic ratings losses of Smellville, that the age of male models as bad Superman actors is now over.
Neither Welling or Routh can act, though Welling has the charm and charisma that Routh so badly acts.
Can we reboot with someone, anyone with training, stage experience, and acting talent to bring Superman back to life?
Honestly Warner's, you did it with Batman, can you do it for Supes? Is that too much to ask? Seiously, is it?
"Are you guys jellous of me? How many times must i smack you down?"
I'm jellous of your command of the english language
Terminal
I think it's quite telling that the "fanboy" dissatifaction is mentioned in an interview with Wouth.
You do the math, if Superman fans voice their disapproval to a level that's now noticed by the media and the general public are just blase about it.....roll on Justice League
No wonder Wouth is "itching" to get back into the suit, what else has he got lined up? I mean, he's no Sean Connery......Oh ReTard, ever heard the expression "clutching at straws"? You fuckin idiot
God Bless
Father Finian Egan
Man you guys are stupid.
A) Regardless of what movie Routh is doing he is making more then you.
B) Regardless of Bryan sexual pref. he is making more money then you.
C) If you take out the failed movie starts Superman Returns was a hit.
D) If you look at most actors they do 2 movies a year that was the point. Go to IMDB and look at most actors and they are the same thats the point.
E) If you people with your limited inteligence can see Marvel is kicking DC's ass the execs know it too and make more money then you.
The point is morons, DC will not just walk away from a frachise that has spawned 4 successful live action TV series, numerous animation, and 5 movies.....so in 2009.............
Superman will fly again.
Thanks for the compliment Terminal didnt think you cared. Also nice to see you support wife beater Sean Conery who is quoted by saying "If your wife acts up you should smack her around a bit."
and if you didnt know the above was the great.
Restart.
Look at the comic movies that have struck out here recently. Ghost Rider sucked and only made 115 mil. FF2 had great Buzz with the Surfer and after a good opening weekend it is tanking badly not likely to make 150 mil. You have Batman Begins that's sequel is currently filming that made less than returns did at the BO. Yes SR cost more to make but given all that do you honestly think that WB sees SR as this utter failure?
Of course they see it as a failure, you Apologist shit-stain. You CAN'T throw-out something as IMPORTANT as HOW MUCH THE MOVIE COST TO MAKE to "prove" a "point". Did Spiderman 3 NOT trash Singerman at the BO? Yes, and it was the WORST of the 3.
And be prepared, those of you with brains, when Transformers goes up against Harry Potter and STILL trounces Singerman Peeps at the BO. There goes that old Apologist excuse of "wah, it went up against Pirates, wah"...
"Man you guys are stupid.
A) Regardless of what movie Routh is doing he is making more then you.
B) Regardless of Bryan sexual pref. he is making more money then you.
C) If you take out the failed movie starts Superman Returns was a hit.
D) If you look at most actors they do 2 movies a year that was the point. Go to IMDB and look at most actors and they are the same thats the point.
E) If you people with your limited inteligence can see Marvel is kicking DC's ass the execs know it too and make more money then you.
The point is morons, DC will not just walk away from a frachise that has spawned 4 successful live action TV series, numerous animation, and 5 movies.....so in 2009.............
Superman will fly again."
A. I GUARANTEE I make MORE money than YOU.
B. I GUARANTEE I make MORE money than YOU.
C. Go spout your shit for brains proclomations somewhere else. NO movie that cost OVER $200 million dollars to make and makes $300 and change WORLDWIDE is a "hit". EVERYONE intelligent enough to READ and WRITE at an ADULT level knows the truth.
D. REAL actors STAR in 2 movies a year, you fucking wretch. They DON'T play "bit parts" in little straight-to-DVD shit like your man Blandon.
And Singerman Peeps "spawned" SHIT, like your mother did when she had YOU. SUPERMAN is responsible for MORE than the limited-scope things you quoted, and WB will wait for a REAL Superman film to come along.
BS snorted his chance away, off a 17 yr old boy's ass crack at that. Apt Pupil exposed his interest in young boys. Look it up.
"Sean Conery who is quoted by saying "If Bryan Singer acts up you should smack her around a bit."
Wise words indeed
Terminal
...can you believe it, make Connery look bad to make Routh look good.
Singer is a FAG and Superman Returns was gay.
...the age of male models as bad Superman actors is now over.
Neither Welling or Routh can act, though Welling has the charm and charisma that Routh so badly acts.
^^^
Welling was a former male model, Routh was a bartender.
"Welling was a former male model, Routh was a bartender. "
I believe Routh modeled too...Just not as extensive as Welling.
None of this even matters anymore. I don't care what the fuck happens, as long as they make a decision one way or the other quickly so I can stop arguing about this shit.
When Singer found Routh he was a LA bartender, that's a fact.
"When Singer found Routh he was a LA bartender, that's a fact. "
I know that, everybody knows that. But he wasn't always a bartender.
Seriously though, why the fuck are we even arguing this? Who the fuck cares anymore? Most likely, by Comic Con we will find out which movie is more likely. And then either this blog will become meaningless because they decide to do a sequel to Returns or this blog erupts and all of you guys span out to the other sites for some "I told you so's..." if they go with JLA and don't do the sequel to Returns.
Either way, I'm spent...This is starting to get really old.
"When Singer found Routh he was a LA bartender, that's a fact. "
So almost every actor that has risen to fame and fortune was a bartender or a waiter or did some other blue collar job while auditioning for roles. Bruce Willis tended bar for like 10 years on and off before he finally got his big break on Moonlighting.
AAWWWWWW, poor Swright he's getting tired of being an apologist!
Hey retard this is a blog community dedicated to bashing the garbage that is Singerman, so you are very much in the minority here! If you’re getting tired why don’t you go to Younis’ site and suck him and Singer’s vision off bitch!
Superman Returns=Batman Forever
The Man of Steel=Batman and Robin
Bryan Singer= Joel Schumacher
The trilogy ends summer 2009
According to box office mojo Spiderman 3 cost $258 million to produce and has made as of Jun. 28, 2007: $333,091,273 in Domestic totals alone added with its worldwide take it’s at $879,633,275 dollars.
Pirates on the other hand lcost 300 million to produce and as of today is at $292,168,000 domestic and $877,168,000 with worldwide totals.
Now compare these numbers to SR which cost $270 million to produce and grossed $200,081,192 domestic at the one of the slowest rates in cinema history and had a combined worldwide total of only $391,081,192.
Time Warner was stupid to allow Singer to make a Queer of Steel film in the 200 million dollar plus production range thinking that kids today would give a darn about The Donner of Yesterday while hopping that it would make Spiderman like numbers at the box office to justify its budget.
Returns cost 204 mil to make. Not one cent of the failed attempts when into the actual making of returns my man. It all goes on the same tab as a matter of paperwork but you honestly think that WB holds SR responsible for Tim Burton bailing on them among others. SR is not the first project to have failed attempts that came before it. WB would be crazy to ditch Returns for this JL movie. Why you ask? The main complaint about SR is lack of action. So make the sequel with a supervillain and lots of action. Pirates 2 sucked shit as a film but it had the action so the people flocked to it. A JL movie will cost WB far more than a returns sequel and if it fails, bye bye Green Lantern and Flash and Wonder Woman franchises from getting off the ground anytime soon. Why would WB have faith in them when a JL movie featuring them failed? The risk/reward is far greater for this JL movie than with a Returns sequel.
I agree with the above. A JL movie would be horrible with a nobody cast and cheesy FX. If they go ahead they might as well change this to I Hate JL movie. I said it once I will say it again..........
Man of Steel in 2009 is the best bet!
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I also do not care how much money anyone makes, I find it spetacular that the losers judge a actor by what they deem good or not. I could embarass AP/Father/SSS/terminal to search the post where they were so sure that Spiderman 3 would be the second coming of Christ. And that botch job makes Pirates an Oscar winner.
"I also do not care how much money anyone makes, I find it spetacular that the losers judge a actor by what they deem good or not. I could embarass AP/Father/SSS/terminal to search the post where they were so sure that Spiderman 3 would be the second coming of Christ. And that botch job makes Pirates an Oscar winner."
Yep, once again with the Apologist reply. YOU brought up money, you fucking piss-stain. So enjoy asking people "You want fries with that?".
And you CAN'T find ANY such posts or you would, ladyboy. But Spiderman 3 DID kick the shit out of Singerman, didn't it? Thought so.
Next week, Transformers PROVES "competition" was NOT an excuse for Singerman FLOPPING.
“Returns cost 204 mil to make. Not one cent of the failed attempts when into the actual making of returns my man.”
^^^
Singerman is the final result of that decade long project. Come back after you've taken Accounting 101.
“It all goes on the same tab as a matter of paperwork but you honestly think that WB holds SR responsible for Tim Burton bailing on them among others.”
^^^
Why don’t you actually read up on the Singerman production budget situation before putting out blank generalizations.
According to Entertainment Weekly (Which is owned by Time Warner):
Ultimately, extra effects and the addition of a bank-robbery sequence — which gained the movie a trailer-friendly bulletproof-eyeball moment — pushed the budget over $200 million. According to the studio, Superman Returns' price tag is $204 million. Without the Australian tax credits: about $223 million.
Add in the bills for Ratner and McG, WHICH WILL COUNT AGAINST SINGER'S FILM,
and the total comes to an estimated $263 million, plus potentially another $100 million in worldwide marketing costs.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1204671_5,00.html
It’s the same in different branches of pre development as well not just movies.
Take for example what came to be the Nintendo Wii. Nintendo spent millions of dollars on other designs and concepts including next gen systems on par with Xbox 360 and PS II graphics wise but in the end opted to go with what ended up to be the Wii; a non next gen graphics focused system with an innovative control interface.
Now Nintendo didn’t just write off the other cost of development as a separate eternity because they weren’t the actual part of the Wii system as we know it to be.
It’s all on the same accounting bank sheet because it’s the preface of the final result of the project even if the concepts they worked on earlier didn’t pan out in the end in the finalized project.
It seems like you apologist are so desperate to say that SR wasn’t that bad of a flop that you’re willing to forgo all basic economical and business logic to do so.
You all truly live in your own Bizarro World.
"You all truly live in your own Bizarro World."
They're also splitting hairs over to what degree Singerman lost money. To me, it matters little whether it lost $4 million or $70 million, fact is IT DID NOT GENERATE PROFIT.
By the way, what's up with all the Routh hate? I dislike Singerman as much as (if not more than) the next guy, but I've got very few problems with Routh. He did a good job, imho (considering the crap he had to work with).
"...to search the post where they were so sure that Spiderman 3 would be the second coming of Christ." Restart
No, you're getting confused with the post YOU made in which you declared with your usual lack of accuracy that Spidey3 was about to be destroyed by the legacy of Returns, you fucking idiot
Terminal
"Spiderman will be buried under Superman Returns ticket sales. This is why the man of steel.....
Will return in 2009!
Restart"
Proof, if any is needed, as to how much of a fuckin idiot Restart is.
Terminal
Spiderman 3 was a product of the first 2 though. It's word of mouth was bad. Opened bigger than the first 2 by far and made a lot less domestic.
"It's word of mouth was bad. Opened bigger than the first 2 by far and made a lot less domestic."
and it still shit over Returns
Spidrman shits all over everything he is the king of Comic movies at the BO. Name a comic movie and he pisses all over it.
"Spidrman shits all over everything he is the king of Comic movies at the BO."
Gee, why's that, do you think? Returns failed to engage it's demographic, let alone the general filmgoer. Had it been a good ol rollicking adventure, as it should have been with, relationships that people could care about, the Spidey might not have retained his monopoly. They made Superman cool for the seventies. Returns failed even to capitalise on the relative success of Smallville.
The answer is the reason why Singer shouldn't be allowed near another Superman project.
Or how bout over exposure. We have Smallville, Lois and Clark reruns, and Justice League. No matter how great the story was people were overfed on Superman. Returns was at least an original respresentation. That is why we should all back Singer.......
For 2009!
Restart
Spiderman quality is less then Returns terminal that you have to admit. If you take tha ammount of people who watch the above then yes Superman outsold spidey hands down.
"Spiderman quality is less then Returns terminal that you have to admit. If you take tha ammount of people who watch the above then yes Superman outsold spidey hands down."
Finally. And no, I wouldn't say Returns is a better movie than Spidey at all.
If people are "overfed" on Superman how come Smallville keeps getting recommissioned? Why are Warners releasing two animated Superman related features to DVD this year along with all the incredible amount of older Supes titles?
So you're saying that despite Returns being supposedly the jewel in the crown of 2006's "Year Of Superman" it simply failed to measure up due to the public being exposed to other, better versions of Superman. That is a very credible reason for it's failure actually.
Termial
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/shortends_post/42570/the-front-page-the-puzzling-ascension-of-bryan-singer
I figured you guys would enjoy that article. Although I don't personally think Singer is a total hack (Usual Suspects is kick arse), I'm really not sure he's right for Supes. :/
"Gee, why's that, do you think? Returns failed to engage it's demographic, let alone the general filmgoer. Had it been a good ol rollicking adventure, as it should have been with, relationships that people could care about, the Spidey might not have retained his monopoly. They made Superman cool for the seventies. Returns failed even to capitalise on the relative success of Smallville."
There is a lot more to it than that. Batman Begins seems to be seen as the better film and it made less than Returns. The Dark Knight is a long shot to make that kind of cash as well. It is not as simple as Singer made a bad film. The public was probbaly not going to embrace Superman like Spiderman nomatter what was put out. A lot of people see Superman as a fucking boyscout, who is too powerful. They want darker heroes who are more vulnerable.
ironic seeing as how Singer made Superman dark (i.e. emo) and vulnerable (a total pussy) and it still didnt work for him.
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