Sunday, July 01, 2007

Another Superman Film is "Way Off"

For those of you who've been wondering what the status was of the Superman franchise, after Singer got done screwing it's corpse, the outlook doesn't look too rosey. It appears that if they do choose to do another Singerman film for some ungodly reason, it won't be for a good long while.

According to Rotten Tomatoes, Singer's producers, Neil Meron and Craid Zadan, are moving forward with Singer directing their pet project, a biopic of slain gay right activist Harvey Milk called The Mayor of Castro Street, as soon as Singer finishes with his current film -- the WWII story Valkyrie.

The next Superman, that's a ways off," claimed Meron, with Zadan adding. "Don't worry about it. Trust me. We may even start preproduction on Harvey Milk while he's on post production on the Tom Cruise movie."These boys are determined to make their movie, comic books be damned. "We've been working on that for 15 years," said Meron. "It started off with Oliver Stone and Robin Williams. Now it's Bryan Singer directing, Chris McQuarrie writing the script."
Now in addition to this is appears that Valkyrie is having a lot of issues on their own, as Germany didn't want batshit crazy Tom Cruise to make a movie there because he's a scientologist. Although now it seems they've backtracked on that, although they're still denying the production crew access to some key sites they planned on using which is still going to cause delays.

Could this be the opening for the potential JLA movie that just had a script turned in? Or could WB plow ahead with this franchise without Singer at the helm? (They did after all, boot him off of the Logan's Run remake he wanted to do so badly.) Either one would be an improvement. We also predicted this might happen back in April.

Perhaps someone should relay this news to Brandon Routh? (and all of the suck-ups over at IESB. ). He seems pretty confused about a lot of things. The fine folks over at C.H.U.D. have an amusing take on that "interview."

160 comments:

Anonymous said...

Isn’t this the exact same situation that Singer had with Fox and the third X-film except this time Singer is delaying his current superhero project to do two films, thus causing to be replace him with Ratner because Fox didn’t care to wait for him and delay the production start time.

This by the way turned out to be a very good financial move for them with X3 outgrossing Singer’s two films.

We can only hope that Time Warner decides to reboot Supes in the vain of the new Hulk because no director whatever it be Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, or Sam Raimi could add enough action to the point of covering all of Singer’s fucked up continuity issues and the bad casting he left on SR the first time around.

Anonymous said...

If Singer really loved Superman the way he claims, he would make the sequel his number one priority after his Tom Cruise film is finished. But no, Singer decides to push the sequel back to make another film.

I mean, Sam Raimi loved Spider-Man so much that he made three Spider-Man films in a row without doing anything in between. Christopher Nolan loved Batman so much that he made "The Prestige" again with Bale then immediately jumped on board "The Dark Knight."

But what does Singer do? He does nothing. He would much rather work on other films rather than a Superman sequel. I think this above all says how much Singer "loves" the character of Superman. I mean, there is no Richard Donner Superman sequel for him to rehash, so why bother with a sequel, especially when it requires him to read DC’s Superman comic books -- the same comic books he chose to vehemently ignore while filming "Superman Returns."

Joel1245 said...

"If Singer really loved Superman the way he claims, he would make the sequel his number one priority after his Tom Cruise film is finished. But no, Singer decides to push the sequel back to make another film."

Yeah, I agree. I also have to wonder if Singer, by being "too busy" with other projects, is also creating a possible excuse/reason here for not doing a sequel to SR just in case WB ends up going with another director. He could always tell the public, "Hey, I was going to do it but WB didn't want to wait so they went with someone else."

But I agree. If he loved the franchise that much and the film had done very well financially, both WB and Singer would not be putting off the sequel as they are doing.

Anonymous said...

According to Singer in a recent interview he is doing Superman next so who knows what is going on. WB and Singer need to figure this out soon. Get someone else to direct or let him do it, but all this speculation is totally out of hand.

Anonymous said...

^that interview was more than a month ago and Sunger didnt say he was doing Superman next, he said they were working on a script, that was it.

Anonymous said...

If history is any guide, Singer will walk into the offices of Warner Brothers and say, "wait for me. Wait for me." And if they're anything like 20th Century Fox, they'll be displeased.

Anonymous said...

HA,Ha as if they weren't dipleased with the box office outcome of Singer's first outting already!

Anonymous said...

"that interview was more than a month ago and Sunger didnt say he was doing Superman next, he said they were working on a script, that was it."

They asked him is the plan to do Superman after Valkeryie and he said yes that is the plan. You don't find it odd that he made no mention at all of this Milkman movie. The producers are saying it is happening soon not Singer. Singer was suppossed to be doing Logans Run for like 2 years now. WB just needs to decide one way or another what to do. The JL is a bad idea, make another Superman movie with Singer or another director.

Joel1245 said...

"The JL is a bad idea, make another Superman movie with Singer or another director."

Yeah, it is a bad idea. To me, that would cheapen all the franchises. What they need to do, if they make a JL movie at all,is to wait for the respective franchises to grow and become established, or run their courses, and then perhaps make a JL movie, but not before.

Anonymous said...

This is what gets me time and time again...how could anyone come away from seeing Returns believing that Singer "loves" Superman??

The only people who believe that nonsense are Younis and his band of Singer sycophants

All this is just paving the way for Warners and/or Singer to back out gracefully, leaving the eternally clueless and unemployed Brandon Routh to give vague answers to questions about the proposed sequel

Terminal

Anonymous said...

Actually, Routh would be about the most likely thing to come back, he's desperate and he works cheap.

Have you seen the list of credits that Meron & Zadon have to their name?

"Gypsy"
"My Life With Judy Garland"
"Chicago"
"Hairspray"
...and now "Harvey Milk" directed by Bryan Singer.

Unless I miss my guess, I reckon they might be fags

Superman becomes straight again!
Terminal

Anonymous said...

"This is what gets me time and time again...how could anyone come away from seeing Returns believing that Singer "loves" Superman??"

I ask myself the same question about the idiots in charge of Smallville every year.

Anonymous said...

"I ask myself the same question about the idiots in charge of Smallville every year."

Well go and ponder that on the "I Hate Smallville" website*, not here

Terminal
*better known as Superman Homepage

Sepharih said...

I keep trying not to get my hopes up, but news like this just keeps coming in.

Is this really happening? Is this truly the end of Singerman?

Anonymous said...

"Well go and ponder that on the "I Hate Smallville" website*, not here"

Shouldn't you be on the Bigots of America website or on a Gay Bashing run right about now?

Anonymous said...

"Is this truly the end of Singerman?"

We live in hope. If we're lucky Singer will vent his gay angst on Harvey Milk's biopic instead of inflicting it on Superman again.

Great photo of Singer on this entry, btw. Doesn't he know how to make your skin crawl in photos. Look at him fondling himself as he fantasises about another underage shower sequence. After that "indescretion" if Singer was a school teacher they would've locked him up.

I suppose this development in the ever increasingly unlikey prospect of Singer returning will go unreported on other Superman sites. The recent interview with welfare recipient Routh is seen as good news by many over there!!

God Bless,
Father Finian Egan

Anonymous said...

"Bashing run right about now?"

Yeah, thanks for reminding me

Anonymous said...

"Shouldn't you be on the Bigots of America website or on a Gay Bashing run right about now?"

Shouldn't you be sucking Singer Steve?

You're a bit late though. See earlier postings

Terminal

Anonymous said...

NO SEQUEL, GUYS. FUGGETABOUTIT

Anonymous said...

"According to Rotten Tomatoes, Singer's producers, Neil Meron and Craid Zadan, are moving forward with Singer directing their pet project, a biopic of slain gay right activist Harvey Milk called The Mayor of Castro Street, as soon as Singer finishes with his current film -- the WWII story Valkyrie."

SSS you do know that Singer's producers to SR are on record as saying the sequel is right on track. Singer himself said as much recently in an interview at the Saturn awards. He backed his SR producers up. This does not hold much weight mainly because Singer has said nothing to back these guys up.

Anonymous said...

"Singer's producers to SR are on record as saying the sequel is right on track"

Riiiight. They've got nothing invested in a possible sequel, have they?

Anonymous said...

Actually Jon Peters was quoted dropping alot of "hopefully"s re the sequel

Hardly a iron clad guarantee, more like "fingers crossed"

Terminal

Anonymous said...

Re Singer's latest debacle, "Valkyrie":"Spokesman Stefan Olbermann says, "They will not be permitted to film at the Bendlerblock but this has nothing to do with Scientology. We saw "Superman Returns" and frankly Germany has suffered enough without inflicting more of Singer's homosexual propaganda on the public"

Terminal

Anonymous said...

These are all rumors! Not one ioda of fact just rumors. Being an insider I know you follow the schedule until it changed. All the guessing in the world will not prevent.....

Singer from directing in 2009!

Restart

Please I would love to see one fact he is off the project. Just one!

Anonymous said...

Please I would love to see one fact he is on the project. Just one!

Anonymous said...

Great take on the Milk/Singer delay on CHUD.

Twinks4Routh, great stuff.

That ice you're on Retard keeps on getting thinner and thinner.....

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=10920

Anonymous said...

"it’s going to be pushed back another calendar year – possibly to 2010."

So its now..............

Superman in 2010!

Restart

I can wait another year for good quality.

voice_of_reason said...

Some of you guys have an odd misconception about the entire dynamic between the producer of a film and the director. The producer of the film is the boss of running the project, the cirector is in charge of getting the movie itself made. The producer in 99% of the cases is the directors boss. If Singer is signed to do this Harvey Milk film, as it appears he is, and the producers of said film are saying he's shooting once he's done with Valkyrie, then you can rest assured, that's what Singer has to do. The only way that changes is if the studio heads re-prioritize the films, but seeing as how there's a lot of differing opinions at WB about Singerman, I dont see them being in any rush to jump on that grenade again, especially since they dont even have a script yet.

swright said...

Actually Singer only has to do it if it's in his contract that he has to do it after Valkyrie. Otherwise he can do as he likes.

Anonymous said...

Singer would be stupid that to do his gay politician film right after his Tom Cruise film, it could go a long way in redeeming him after his superhero debacle much like Brokeback Mountain did for Ang Lee after the Hulk, while letting someone else more qualified with the actual Supes DC mythos spin a new take on him and leave The Donner of Yesterday back where it belongs in the past.

Anonymous said...

"Riiiight. They've got nothing invested in a possible sequel, have they?"

And the Milkman producers have nothing invested. Difference is Singer has said he wants to do Superman next, these guys made their comments on their own.

Anonymous said...

According to an interview with Martin Grove with The Hollywood Reporter when asked why Singer departed "X3" to make "Superman" instead, Singer told him, "I've wanted to do it for years. I always have.”
Well guess what, it’s the same story once again but with a different character, Singer has wanted to make this Brokeback Politician film for over a decade and the film’s principal producers have confirmed that he will do it after the Cruise film wraps although word from him probably won’t come until Valkyrie finishes up.
Face it you apologist/ denialist, your Queer of Steel wet dream is over!
HAHA HAHAAHHAH

Anonymous said...

Singer is like one of those non monogamous gay guys in the club, once he sees something that he likes better he’s quick to leave the one he’s with and fuck the new one in the ass.

Anonymous said...

"Singer has said he wants to do Superman next, these guys made their comments on their own."

CLUTCHING AT STRAWS

Your dream of Singer returning triumphant to direct another Superman is looking more than shakey

Anonymous said...

"CLUTCHING AT STRAWS

Your dream of Singer returning triumphant to direct another Superman is looking more than shakey"

Really so you think it is more believable that these producers on their own said this as opposed too Singer and his Returns producers saying they are doing Superman after Valkeryie. We will know for sure soon. I imagine Dan and Mike are almost done with the script so we should hear something from WB soon thereafter about it getting the greenlight or not.

Anonymous said...

"Really so you think it is more believable......."

Yes I do Steve because the evidence is ever increasing. Any evidence to the contrary comes from actors and Jon Peters clearly not having a clue what's going on, and from Singer himself who is being "diplomatic" as you would expect.

This sort of news is certainly more credible than hearing what Eva Marie Saint thinks is going to happen. Like the poor thing is going to be around for, or be able to actually work on a sequel

Father Finian

voice_of_reason said...

Really so you think it is more believable that these producers on their own said this as opposed too Singer and his Returns producers saying they are doing Superman after Valkeryie.

Considering that these producers went as far as to state definitively when it was happening and even when pre-production is likely to begin, you can rest assured that Singer is on board with it. I find those statements having a heck of a lot more weight than Peter's vague statements about an SR sequel.
Not to mention there is an urgency to getting this Mayor film made, as there's another potential Harvey Milk biopic in the works from another studio, and WB wants to be first with it, since they've been trying to do it for 15 years. There's certainly no urgency to make another Singerman film.

Anonymous said...

dont waste your breath Voice, it's just the apologists hanging onto the last threads they have left. They make it sound as if the producers of the Harvey Milk film have some secret agenda in Superman not getting made.
Mayor apparently has a good script and a greenlight from the studio.

Anonymous said...

Boy more hyperjecture from the "gay bashing" peanut gallery. Go figure. This move opened a year ago and loser on this site can not rally enough support to get another superman movie made. They are so busy bashing Singer, but secretly wanting to be him. Singer will direct the next superman if he wasnt attached to the project the WB would have dropped his name. Or are you so naive to think that Singer has enough clout to prevent this? So if WB is dropping him then why haven't they announced it? SSS/AP/Terminal/Father care to comment or do you just want to bash gays?...................

Superman in 2009 or 2010 either way it will beat batman again!

Restart

You know I am right! I just can not wait for your lame brain excuses why WB has NOT announce Singer is leaving the project.

Anonymous said...

"Considering that these producers went as far as to state definitively when it was happening and even when pre-production is likely to begin, you can rest assured that Singer is on board with it. I find those statements having a heck of a lot more weight than Peter's vague statements about an SR sequel."

Oh for god's sake Singer and the Cast of SR and the prodcuers have been saying this same shit forever. Now you are just making shit up guys. When Singer and his SR producers say flat out that after Valkeryie the plan is Superman that holds more weight than just these producers and not Singer saying the same thing.

swright said...

"Considering that these producers went as far as to state definitively when it was happening and even when pre-production is likely to begin, you can rest assured that Singer is on board with it. I find those statements having a heck of a lot more weight than Peter's vague statements about an SR sequel. "

Dude, Singer and the producers said the SAME DAMN THING about the Superman Returns sequel. So I guess we can rest assured that Singer is on board with that one too. Singer, at the Saturn awards, said that the plan is to do Superman Returns AFTER VALKYRIE. Until he or Warners says otherwise, I'm going to believe that the sequel is happening first.

Anonymous said...

"Dude, Singer and the producers said the SAME DAMN THING about the Superman Returns sequel. So I guess we can rest assured that Singer is on board with that one too. Singer, at the Saturn awards, said that the plan is to do Superman Returns AFTER VALKYRIE. Until he or Warners says otherwise, I'm going to believe that the sequel is happening first."

BINGO HELLO SR HATERS!! How anyone can say that these producers on their own hold more weight than Singer and his SR producers saying otherwise is beyond me?

Anonymous said...

"How anyone can say that these producers on their own hold more weight than Singer and his SR producers saying otherwise is beyond me?"

What, are you retarded or blind?

The Milk bio has been greenlit unlike the sequel

Anonymous said...

"Superman in 2009 or 2010 either way it will beat batman again!"

Like how you said it would beat Spiderman?

Restart, a fuckwit for the people

Anonymous said...

But it did beat Batman in total gross. That is a fact.....Morons....

Supes in 2009!

Restart.

Looks like father/terminal/sss/AP will ignore my above points again. And they wonder why I say I am smarter then them. All they do is gay bash and not give facts or points. I guess this is why i am more sucessful then them all.

Anonymous said...

OH SHIT! Singer just confirmed that he left the project!!!!!

I can't believe that!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

I owe sss/AP/terminal/father an apology ... but FUCK YOU ALL! Go to hell you heteros!!!

Singerman will live on forever!!!

Go fuck you Superman!

Restart.

Anonymous said...

^^^
I'm all for Singer leaving Supes but where did you hear that, Retard you are just nuts!

Anonymous said...

The world does not need Singer's Superman. he does not understand that Superman is an ever evolving icon. Superman’s relevancy depends on what the world is today. Singer's crazy attempt to raise the dead and bring back the outdated Donner Superman has resulted in this Superman Returns Frankenstein Monster.

Anonymous said...

"I can't believe that!"

Neither can I. Restart never posts anything that makes any sense......and there's no spelling mistakes!

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
OH SHIT! Singer just confirmed that he left the project!!!!!

I can't believe that!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

I owe sss/AP/terminal/father an apology ... but FUCK YOU ALL! Go to hell you heteros!!!

Singerman will live on forever!!!

Go fuck you Superman!

Restart. "

First i would never apologize. Second I wouldnt say go fuck hetros since that is a gay comment. Third i always end with.

Superman in 2009!

Restart

Then i usually rant that dummies on this board can not understand

Anonymous said...

"IESB.net reported that a deal between director Bryan Singer and Warner Bros. had been finalized for a sequel. The budget will reportedly be reduced; however, the existing sets would contribute to lower costs across the board for the upcoming movie. The sequel is expected to be more action focused than its predecessor.[39]

The working title for the sequel has been reported, and neither confirmed nor denied, as Superman: The Man of Steel.[40] The focus will be on a tighter story with more villains and bigger action sequences."

I win you lose.

Supes in 2009!

Restart

Thank you all! Time to close this useless blog once and for all.

Anonymous said...

"I win you lose."

ReTard"

Jeez, your cock must be tiny.

And guess what, no matter whether you support Singer or not, EVERBODY on here thinks you are a desperate fuckin joke.

Sepharih said...

Ok Restart...first of all, why the hell is it so important to you that this blog close anyway? Does it really piss you off that much that some people don't like Singer’s boring, convoluted, inane take on Supes? You could just...you know...stop reading it if you dislike it that much.
...please?

Second, last time I checked this blog’s primary concern wasn’t stopping a Singerman sequel anyway. That didn’t even seem to be a possibility until a month or so ago. It says at the top of the page that this is “A blog for fans to voice their frustrations with Bryan Singer and his awful version of Superman.” So as long as Singerman persists (or until the guys running this show get tired of it) SSS will still be here giving his humorous commentary on why Singer’s Superman Sucks. That will be one of the things I'll take comfort in should the production get underway.
In fact, the only logical reason I can think of to close this blog would be the exact opposite situation. In the off chance that Singer actually is kicked off the project....then this blog would pretty much be rendered useless.

So, for everyone who wants this blog gone...cross your fingers and hope that Singer gets the axe. That way everybody wins!

messi said...

hey restart you dumb fuck.

not many people liked superman returns, alot of people are realizing that now. BB had legs and a ridiculous franchise to recover from, yet the dvd sales have been ridiculously high compared to SR and the hype for the next movie is fucking huge. So stop talking shit. Singer produced a bland chick flick for 200 million dollars and Bay produces one of the biggest spectacles ever in Transformers for 150 million. You lose dumb cunt.

Anonymous said...

GO MAKE REAL MOVIES, SINGER! NO MORE DONNER ASS-KISSING.

Anonymous said...

wow ReTard, you really showed us by posting a 2 and 1/2 month old article from IESB of all places.

BTW I'm pretty sure that IESB really stands for I Eat Singer's Balls, the way those sycophants suck up to anyone involved in Singerman. Those guys are friggen a pathetic bunch of losers who are extremely hard up for anyone in Hollywood to notice them. Did you see how uncomfortable Routh got in that interview when that clown started saying "fuck the fanboys"?

swright said...

"Did you see how uncomfortable Routh got in that interview when that clown started saying "fuck the fanboys"? "

Yeah, because it was completely unprofessional of the interviewer to say that while interviewing him. He was smart and did the only thing he could do, keep his mouth shut and smile.

Anonymous said...

^ I think that was his/her point. No need to go get defensive. He was basically stating how unprofessional and pathetic IESB is, not Routh.

swright said...

"^ I think that was his/her point. No need to go get defensive. He was basically stating how unprofessional and pathetic IESB is, not Routh. "

I didn't mean for that to sound defensive. I was actually venting about the interviewer and not the poster above. Sorry abou that.

Anonymous said...

"Yeah, because it was completely unprofessional of the interviewer to say that"

Why?

Fuck off! Who's Routh, the Pope? The interviewer actually asked a pertinent question...there is disapointment in Returns. Routh would be a moron if he didn't realise it.

Again Younis's Twinks4Routh feel the need to rush in to defend their widdle Wouth. Fuckin cry babies!

Terminal

swright said...

"Fuck off! Who's Routh, the Pope? The interviewer actually asked a pertinent question...there is disapointment in Returns. Routh would be a moron if he didn't realise it."

You're a fucking idiot Terminal. We are talking about saying FUCK THE FANBOYS, about their disapointment. He wasn't asking about the actual disapointment, he was making a derogatory statement about the fanboy complaints. You know, like this fucking blog. It was unprofessional of him to say something like that.

Jesus, I didn't realize you were that dumb.

Anonymous said...

"BB had legs and a ridiculous franchise to recover from, yet the dvd sales have been ridiculously high compared to SR and the hype for the next movie is fucking huge."

Actually you have no way of backing the DVD sales up. Studios do not typically release info on final sales for DVD's. You usually know what they did in their first weeks release both in rentals and sales and in both cases SR and BB opened up at number 1. Final sales though after they were no longer a hot item, you are not going to find that info. As far as the huge hype for The Dark Knight, since not even a teaser has been released i fail to see how it has any huge hype at this point. More people are actually buzzing about Indiana Jones than The Dark Knight, even in Indie's very early stages od production. Heath Ledger (AKA the GAY Cowboy), is The Dark Knights biggest hurdle.

The Original Dangster said...

Man after seeing the fun as hell "Transformers" flick it makes me wonder what the Michael Bay Supes flick would've been like.

Maybe now that it's making high class whore type o' cash, Warners might think about bringing him back on board the franchise.

Anonymous said...

"Man after seeing the fun as hell "Transformers" flick it makes me wonder what the Michael Bay Supes flick would've been like.

Maybe now that it's making high class whore type o' cash, Warners might think about bringing him back on board the franchise."

Oh please he would have made a Superman movie that had him flying around blowing shit up for 2 hrs and doing nothing else. If one of your issues with SR was the way the character was portrayed than Bay is not your guy. He could care less about characters, he's strictly an action director. Superman is not suppossed to be just an action movie.

Anonymous said...

Interesting, how people get pissed off when I state fact of the sequel not the conjecture usual posted here. Singer will not get the axe, and ......


the sequel is on for 2009!

Restart

Crying about it won't change it! Seph this blog is just propaganda. It never shows both points of view. It throws out conjecture and lies!
messi enough with the BB had legs arguement it still grossed less then superman returns!

Anonymous said...

"messi enough with the BB had legs arguement it still grossed less then superman returns!"

The Legs argument is such a joke anyway. It's opening weekend was 4 mil less than SR and it made 5 mil more domestic and 20 mil less Worlwide and it did not have a billion dollar movie opening a week into it's run. People just spew things based on their hatred, not based in reality. Look at FF2. That opened bigger than both SR and BB and it looks like it is not going to even make 140 mil domestic. That is getting shitty word of mouth. Both Returns and Begins got good word of mouth, the numbers don't lie.

Anonymous said...

ReTard, you're on a blog called 'Singer's Superman Sucks" and you're looking for "both points of view?" Christ, you're too dumb to exist, please dont ever put your penis in a girl. I'm not sure why everything here is "conjecture" but you find credibility in the crap you spew? Everything here is linked to some kind of media source, outside of SSS's hilarious op ed pieces he does once in a while.

Sepharih said...

Restart:
“Seph this blog is just propaganda. It never shows both points of view.”

GOOD! I don’t care about getting both points of view. I don’t want this blog to be objective or fair and balanced. SSS is under absolutely no obligation to do that and they never claimed to do it in the first place. This is “A blog for fans to voice their frustrations with Bryan Singer and his awful version of Superman.” THAT...IS...IT.

Don’t like it? Don’t read it. PLEASE stop this juvenile crusade you have against a group which considers you, at best, a minor annoyance; if not for our sake then for yours at least. If this is really how you get your kicks then fine, but I find it difficult to believe that you can’t find something infinitely more satisfying to do with the time you spend here.

Anonymous said...

People just spew things based on their hatred, not based in reality. Look at FF2. That opened bigger than both SR and BB and it looks like it is not going to even make 140 mil domestic. That is getting shitty word of mouth. Both Returns and Begins got good word of mouth, the numbers don't lie
^^^

>>FF 2's opening weekend was 58 million SR's weekend opening was 84 million dollars, check your numbers.


What the fuck is with your comparison of Batman Begins and Superman Returns? The only thing they have on the same ground is the fact that they are both DC characters.

*Superman Returns cost like 210 million to produce with out the added cost of failed projects, while Batman Begins cost 150 million to produce.

*Superman Returns marketing and advertising cost were at the 100 million dollar level. While the marketing and advertising that went in BB was 50 million. That�s about 10 million more dollars than Ang Lee's Hulk got for its marketing blitz.

If you want to compare SR to something why don't you compare it to films that were actually in its same weight class in terms of production cost like X3 or Spiderman 3 and tell me how well it did?

The only reason why SR had that solid opening weekend which BTW wasn't even that great given the fact that Time Warner spent in excess of 100 million dollars promoting the film.

Too bad then soon after bad word of mouth, along with Pirates with Prada killed SR.

Once again It seems like you apologist are so desperate to say that SR wasn't that bad of a flop that you're willing to forgo all basic economical and business logic to do so and just use raw numbers to try and argue.

"SR apologist they all truly live in their own Bizarro World."

Anonymous said...

A year later the people speak and truth comes out!

Superman Returns IMDB user rating 6.9

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest IMDB user rating 7.4


Singer�s Superman does indeed suck!!!

Anonymous said...

LOL 6.9 now that's what I call good word of mouth

Anonymous said...

6.9 is good....



on the Richter scale

Anonymous said...

"Oh please he would have made a Superman movie that had him flying around blowing shit up for 2 hrs and doing nothing else. If one of your issues with SR was the way the character was portrayed than Bay is not your guy. He could care less about characters, he's strictly an action director. Superman is not suppossed to be just an action movie."

I'd rather see 2 hours of him flying around and blowing up shit, than 2 and a half hours of Singer "character development"..What was that character development?..That he sulks and knocks bitches up?.

Oh he really developed Lex too..Let's see 25 years later he's still after real estsate..Fucking Big Bird has shown more character development over that time.

Anonymous said...

">>FF 2's opening weekend was 58 million SR's weekend opening was 84 million dollars, check your numbers.


What the fuck is with your comparison of Batman Begins and Superman Returns? The only thing they have on the same ground is the fact that they are both DC characters."

Opening weekend dumbass. SR made 52 mil, BB made 48 mil FF2 made 58 mil. If you want to compare the first 7 days of release for those films that is fine but all it shows is that word of mouth again was good for BB and SR and lousy for FF 2. After a better opening weekend than Returns and Begins it has fallen apart. Ghost Rider same thing 40 plus mil opening weekend and it only made 115 mil at the BO, lousy word of mouth. The reason i am comparing them is because someone said BB had great word of mouth and SR did not, the facts do not back that up. You want to talk about budget that is a different argument altogether. As far as legs go though, by the numbers there is no doubt that BB and SR both had good legs, facts are facts.

Anonymous said...

SR did not get to 200 million dollars domestic on good word of mouth it got there on its 100 dollar advertising campaign.

Better believe if you overexpose people to shit enough times they will surcome.

It’s the same principal when record companies pay radio stations to give their artist more spins.

It’s amazing that BB got past the 200 million mark in the US on its 50 million dollar ad campaign, now that’s good word of mouth or the Devil Wears Prada which made 125 million domestic on its less than 20 million dollar ad campaign while stealing movie goers from the much heavier hyped SR.

Numbers don’t lie apologist, it’s your interpretations of them that are distorted.

Bottom line SR’s hype before hand and word of mouth was not very good in proportion to how much money Time Warner spent shoving Singerman junk down the throat of the general public.

Anonymous said...

Singer is a FAG and Superman Returns was gay.

Anonymous said...

BB marketing Budget was also 100 mil pal, so there goes your word of mouth meant nothing it was all about the marketing budget for SR theory. Like i said they both got good word of mouth, deal with it and move on.

http://www.savethegoldfish.co.uk/index.php?action=display_article&id=344

"Batman Begins has been given the biggest marketing budget in film history and the total figure for all it's marketing now stands at a whopping $100 million."

There are a few links that will confirm this if you still won't let it go.

swright said...

"BB marketing Budget was also 100 mil pal, so there goes your word of mouth meant nothing it was all about the marketing budget for SR theory. Like i said they both got good word of mouth, deal with it and move on.

http://www.savethegoldfish.co.uk/index.php?action=display_article&id=344

"Batman Begins has been given the biggest marketing budget in film history and the total figure for all it's marketing now stands at a whopping $100 million."

There are a few links that will confirm this if you still won't let it go. "

I knew I remember reading that BB's marketing budget was 100 million instead of the 50 million that everybody on here was claiming. That pretty much shits all over the argument about the marketing budget of SR being responsible for it's take when BB's had the same budget.

messi said...

god you apologists are rididuclous. every movie site has said that batman begins had good word of mouth which translated to legs which is why it was in theatres for a while, whereas superman returns did not have good word of mouth(i don't know where you get this from), it was one of the slowest climbers to 200 million ever. Batman Begins was a critically acclaimed movie from critics, fanboys and general public alike. SR had mixed reviews from critics, bad word of mouth from the general public and derision from comic book fans and movie geeks.

Legs does matter, because it shows interest and shows interest in a sequel, you're a fucking idiot because you said it doesn't matter. Your theory doesn't work, anyone in the movie business will tell you legs do matter, alot of movies make big opening weekends but then fall off. God you are dumb.

and The Dark Knight has no hype, this blatantly shows how fucking stupid you are. The Viral Marketing made it's way to major newspapers and blog sites, the revelation of the joker got everyone excited and the hype is huge, it's one of the most anticipated presentations at comic con(it won't be there) but it will be in Chicago. If you can't see the hype and can't see that no one really cares about a superman sequel but people are excited about the dark knight, then you're a blatant bias idiot. All the major movie sites are going crazy over the Dark Knight, it's hilarious that because you haven't seen it that it means the hype isn't big, it's only because you are stupid. Superman Returns did not do well and was not well recieved, face the facts.

Anonymous said...

By the same apologist logic we can also say that Pirates: Dead Man’s Chest was very well received by the general public and had very good word of mouth after its huge opening weekend of 135 million dollars because it had only a 54 percent drop the week after and continued to out earn SR week after week.

This in comparison to SR which had a 59 percent drop after its lukewarm opening because the word of mouth was that the best thing about the film was the Spiderman 3 teaser.

Guess after Pirates came out everyone just forgot about Singerman and told all their friends and family to see Pirates instead right?

Anonymous said...

"Legs does matter, because it shows interest and shows interest in a sequel, you're a fucking idiot because you said it doesn't matter. Your theory doesn't work, anyone in the movie business will tell you legs do matter, alot of movies make big opening weekends but then fall off. God you are dumb."

Are you talking to me? Find where i said that legs do not matter? I was making my case that they were as good as BB. The numbers back me up. Both opened about the same, both had 100 mil marketing budget's, SR made 20 mil more WW and 5 mil less domestic up against much greater competition. Numbers are numbers guys that is the great thing about them. Furthermore i cited movies like Ghost Rider and FF 2 that opened about the same or even bigger on opening weekend in FF2 case and then fell off thanks to bad word of mouth. BTW SR has a 77% fresh rating on RT that is anything but mixed, that is very positive.

Anonymous said...

76% actually my bad.

swright said...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2816&Itemid=99


Article about Milkman delaying Man of Steel.

Few highlights..

"The IESB called sources in the Singer camp to see if there where any truth to the producers’ statements. Here’s what they had to say, “That’s total horse shit, I would say the same thing if I was producing that film but don’t you realize that most of the Superman producers are working with Bryan on Valkyrie? Gil Adler and Chris Lee both are in Germany with Bryan and I can guarantee you that there is some work being done with Superman right now.”

and....

"So why would Neil Meron and Craig Zadan say the contrary? “It’s their job as producers to keep that movie on their front burner, but really, Bryan’s deal with Warner Bros. for the Superman sequel is already done and signed and that’s the priority,” our studio source tells the IESB."

Just thought I would pass this along since it may not get posted on this site.

Anonymous said...

What so now Time Warner is working on a Justice League film (which already had its first draft script turned in) and another Superman film?

And what’s up with these unnamed sources on that story above what is SR II like a top secret project or something now?

Anonymous said...

"And what’s up with these unnamed sources on that story above what is SR II like a top secret project or something now?"

You don't know much about the news business do you? Reporters rarely reveal their sources. Just pick up a paper and count how many stories you will read that say according to sources, without saying who they are.

Anonymous said...

Swright you knows what funny about people like you, It’s that you’re so insecure about your love for Singerman cock that you have to come back day after day to a blog dedicated to hating SR to try and convince everyone and yourself that another film is on its way

Realize that there are people that hate SR as much as you love it and except that so maybe you can have some peace in your life.

Superman Returns=Batman Forever
The Man of Steel=Batman and Robin
Bryan Singer= Joel Schumacher
The trilogy ends summer 2009

Previously posted by Swright

"Either way, I'm spent...This is starting to get really old."--->>> This is what it sounds like when apologists cry.

Anonymous said...

"Swright you knows what funny about people like you, It’s that you’re so insecure about your love for Singerman cock that you have to come back day after day to a blog dedicated to hating SR to try and convince everyone and yourself that another film is on its way

Realize that there are people that hate SR as much as you love it and except that so maybe you can have some peace in your life."

All he did was post the damn story. A story that is 100% relevant to this thread. The rest of what you said is you just being a dick for no apparent reason.

Anonymous said...

"All he did was post the damn story."

Which carries no more weight than any other "statement"

Notice how "inside sources" as well as Routh and Peters are the ones giving out positive spin (with no hard facts)about the sequel.

You can quote all the unamed Singer Yes Men you want. Still means shit

Swright is bound by his terms of membership to Superman Homepage to follow the "Gospel According To Steve Younis" to the letter, being that one must defend the honor of Singerman, Homosexuality and Rubber Fetish suits.

Swright is also a self admitted Jar Jar Binks fan.....what a retard

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"Which carries no more weight than any other "statement"

IESB broke the news about Singer getting his deal for the sequel so they obviously have sources either at WB, in Singer's camp or both. I said before it meant a whole lot more that Singer and his SR producers were saying it is Superman after Valkeryie as oppossed to just these Milkman producers saying otherwise.

Anonymous said...

So what now some unnamed sources say in the Singerman camp claim Singerman II is a go and asserts that the only reason the producers of Milkman would say otherwise is because they wanna keep their project on the front burner?
How about the only reason the unnamed sources would say Singerman is a go is to also keep THEIR Singerman project on the front burner burner also.
This is also in contrary to Variety report about a possible Justice League film on its way.
The second Singerman film situation like the first film is a mess.

Anonymous said...

Swright is also a self admitted Jar Jar Binks fan.....what a retard


Restart/retard is the Bizarro version of Swright

voice_of_reason said...

IESB broke the news about Singer getting his deal for the sequel so they obviously have sources either at WB, in Singer's camp or both. I said before it meant a whole lot more that Singer and his SR producers were saying it is Superman after Valkeryie as oppossed to just these Milkman producers saying otherwise.

It never ceases to amaze me how far IESB is up Singer's ass. They must have a lovely view of his colon. I'm sorry but they lost any credibility and impartiality as a "news source" when they started openly bashing people who dared dislike Singerman and saying "fuck the fanboys" to Routh. I put as much stock in their news as I do in what shows up on Dark Horizons.

S.S.S. said...

First off, this article wont be posted here unless another more reliable source confirms it on their own. I dont trust IESB and as a source for anything more than a humorous look at a website that's so desperate to be relevant to the studios, they've made a complete joke of themselves. (see the last Routh interview I linked in this article.) They're literally one step away from being Bluetights.net.

That being said, something with IESB's "report" doesn't jive, besides the fact that they're a bunch of unprofessional hacks that is.

Singerman II doesnt even have an approved script at this point, so why would Singer and producers be working on a film that WB hasnt given the go ahead on yet? It's still in the writing stage.

And United Artists is the studio paying Singer and Co to be over in Germany to film Valyrie, which BTW is like an 18 hour a day project. When would they have the time to do this? And why would they be working on a film for WB while they were there? You usually dont work on one studio's film when you're on location filming another studio's project. Seeing as though they cant use one of the main locations they had planned, that production is already behind the 8 ball as is. I'd be amazed if Singer is doing more than answering emails from his writers about movie ideas.

The other thing that amuses me about this, is that the Singerman producers say the Milk producers are just saying that their film is next to keep their project in the public eye, and that their film is really next in line. Well, why wouldnt they be doing the exact same thing? Singer is just as signed on for a Singerman sequel as he is for the Mayor of Castro Street. They're both WB projects, so the studio can order them anyway it likes if he's under contract to do both.

Anonymous said...

^^

SSS first off did IESB break the news first about Singer's deal for the sequel? Yes they did. They do have sources either in Singers circle or at WB there is no doubt of that otherwise they would not have been first on that story. Secondly if Singer and his SR producers many of which are with him on this project are saying Superman is next, that means more than just these producers on their own saying they are next. The studio can order Singer to do whatever they want, he does not have to obey. If he tells them he is doing Superman next, then they will have to find a new director. Singer was suppossed to direct Logan's Run for like 2 years. Eventually the studio decided to find a new director as Singer kept putting it off. X3 same thing he was suppossed to do it and then pulled out at the last minute.

Anonymous said...

".....Secondly if Singer and his SR producers many of which are with him on this project are saying Superman is next, that means more than just these producers on their own saying they are next......"

...but what is the name of the guy on first base?

Talk about a lame reversal of what's already been said though, typical

Unamed sources:spin doctors

Anonymous said...

"Yesterday, unamed insider sources claimed that Bryan Singer is a fag and Superman Returns was gay"

Steve Younis

Anonymous said...

"Unamed sources:spin doctors"

Talk about knowing jack shit about the news business. I say again pick up a paper and see how many stories say sources this and sources that. Reporters rarely revel them that is the business.

swright said...

Never ceases to amaze me that you guys will immediately disregard this story, but will jump all over something another blogger posts. I posted that on here, because it has as much relevance as the other story.

IESB obviously has someone in Singer's camp who is right now saying that the sequel is their next priority. They've broken news before. Are they biased? Probably, but that doesn't change the fact that they are reporting what someone from the inside is telling them. If the producers of Milkman can come out and say what they did, whey can't the SR guys respond.

Oh and it is entirely possible to devote some time to the sequel while Singer is prepping Valkyrie. He said they are working on things right now, which means he is probably talking about the script.

swright said...

"First off, this article wont be posted here unless another more reliable source confirms it on their own."

Superherohype, comingsoon.net, SHP, IESB and I'm sure Rottentomatoes will have the story when they update on Monday since they rarely update on the weekend. All of these sites apparently feel that the story is solid enough and trustworthy enough to report on it, but this BLOG doesn't? Cut me a fucking break.

Anonymous said...

"Reporters rarely revel them that is the business."

What a joke!

So when crazy old lady, Eva Marie Saint is quoted, or crazy ex hairdresser Jon Peters says he's still "hoping" why then would the reporters credit them? Wouldn't it then be "business" just to credit them as "insiders"??

The apologist ice is getting thinner....

Sources close to Bryan Singer claim that swright just keeps coming back to show people how naive he is and that when it comes to a possible sequel to the celebration of homosexuality that is Singerman, swright remains "ever hopeful"

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"Superherohype, comingsoon.net, SHP, IESB and I'm sure Rottentomatoes will have the story when they update on Monday since they rarely update on the weekend. All of these sites apparently feel that the story is solid enough and trustworthy enough to report on it, but this BLOG doesn't? Cut me a fucking break."

SSS just got fucking owned. Oh yeah and SSS by the way don't talk trash about IESB being unprofessional when crap like this you put in your BLOG,

"status was of the Superman franchise, after Singer got done screwing it's corpse,"

Oh yeah that quote is just loaded with class give me a fucking break you HACK!!!

Anonymous said...

"First off, this article wont be posted here unless another more reliable source confirms it on their own."

swright, do you even grasp what that sentence means??

What a fuckwit. Look up "another" "reliable" and "confirms it ON THEIR OWN" as opposed to quoting IESB????

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"SSS just got fucking owned."

Please see above, dickhead

Anonymous said...

"So when crazy old lady, Eva Marie Saint is quoted, or crazy ex hairdresser Jon Peters says he's still "hoping" why then would the reporters credit them? Wouldn't it then be "business" just to credit them as "insiders"??"

WOW you really know nothing do you? There is a difference between an interview with an actor an contacting a source. Pick up a paper SON and see how many times you see unamed sources discussed and yet giving reliable INFO.

Anonymous said...

Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you the pot and the kettle.....

"status was of the Superman franchise, after Singer got done screwing it's corpse,"

Oh yeah that quote is just loaded with class give me a fucking break you HACK!!!

Priceless

Anonymous said...

"Please see above, dickhead"

You being a jackass, yeah you got owned too motherfucker.

Anonymous said...

Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you the "pot and the kettle.....

"status was of the Superman franchise, after Singer got done screwing it's corpse,"

Oh yeah that quote is just loaded with class give me a fucking break you HACK!!!

Priceless"

It is 100% true. Do not trash others for lack of professionalism and then say immature stuff like that on your BLOG.

Anonymous said...

"There is a difference between an interview with an actor an contacting a source."

I think you'll find "son" that more responsible journalism can and does, name it's sources. Sort of adds weight to the story, jackass

Now in relation to the discussion in question, look at the chain of evidence before your very eyes and then see how it looks when an "insider" makes a statement to pour water over suggestions that all may not be well in the SinerSuperman camp.

After what's transpired, it's a little more than naive to defend a anonomous statement in face of producers who make their names known.

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"Do not trash others for lack of professionalism and then say immature stuff like that on your BLOG."

Are you serious? Fuck off! It's not my BLOG anyway jerk off

Just because you got beat as a kid don't try to be an authority figure on the net, little dick

Anonymous said...

"Are you serious? Fuck off! It's not my BLOG anyway jerk off

Just because you got beat as a kid don't try to be an authority figure on the net, little dick"

I am talking about SSS you walking illiterate.

Anonymous said...

Is that comic book nerd back again?

Anonymous said...

"If the producers of Milkman can come out and say what they did, whey can't the SR guys respond." swright

Exactly, that's a very good point that dismisses the validity of opposing claims made by "insiders"

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"That's total horse sh*t," said a source within Singer's camp for IESB.net. "I would say the same thing if I was producing that film but don't you realize that most of the 'Superman' producers are working with Bryan on 'Valkyrie'? Gil Adler and Chris Lee both are in Germany with Bryan and I can guarantee you that there is some work being done with 'Superman' right now."

The current plan is to start shooting the Superman Returns sequel by the summer of 2008."

Thats right SSS/terminal/ap/anny/ and denialist assholes, REstart is correct again. The above is from superherohype. Production is on schedule........................

MAN OF STEEL IN 2009!!!!!!!!

rEstart

I once again own this site with a scoop that is not posted. SSS how do you feel to be bested by me again? Why not post another quote from people not associated with the film. AP/term/father I am laughing at you! Bow to your superior!

Anonymous said...

So reputable sources like Variety and even Singer's own producers, Neil Meron and Craid Zadan have come out on the record and have said that Singerman II has been delayed indefinably and we are to now believe some unnamed source from some heck site with representatives telling Routh to “fuck the fanboys” as a more reliable source.

Well to that I say, FUCK YOU apologist!

swright said...

"So reputable sources like Variety and even Singer's own producers, Neil Meron and Craid Zadan have come out on the record and have said that Singerman II has been delayed indefinably and we are to now believe some unnamed source from some heck site with representatives telling Routh to “fuck the fanboys” as a more reliable source. "

Hey dipshit, Variety was reporting what those producers said. Variety has also reported that the sequel is set to start shooting next year. And I'm not saying they are more reliable, just that their report is as credible as the others right now.

Anonymous said...

Its looks like TRANSFORMERS is going to outgross SR's entire summer totals within 3 weeks of its release.

Hey what do you know, Bay was actually able to take a 80’s icon and hip it up to date enough to draw in the original now adult fanbase along with the teenagers of today.

Something that out of touch Singer couldn’t accomplish with SR on any level.

Anonymous said...

Superman returns was a weak starter and had no legs. Transformers is going to be an absolute monster. it's going to have a huge opening given the international crowd already(most are in their 20's and 30's and they have the cash) and the movie is pretty great and people are loving it so it's going to have legs. Watch it make it to 200 mil in a quarter of the time it took Singerman Returns

Anonymous said...

"Superman returns was a weak starter and had no legs. Transformers is going to be an absolute monster. it's going to have a huge opening given the international crowd already(most are in their 20's and 30's and they have the cash) and the movie is pretty great and people are loving it so it's going to have legs. Watch it make it to 200 mil in a quarter of the time it took Singerman Returns"

Who cares why is every goddamn movie that comes out that is a hit compared to SR? So every movie that Transformers makes more money than it is because it is a better movie.

Anonymous said...

Oh that's right box office doesn’t matter for SR except when it comes to comparing it to Batman Begins.

Typical apologist logic.

Anonymous said...

Who cares why is every goddamn movie that comes out that is a hit compared to SR?

Ummm… because if SR had made those kind of numbers it would not have been a huge commercial flop.

Superman Returns=Batman Forever
The Man of Steel=Batman and Robin
Bryan Singer= Joel Schumacher
The trilogy ends summer 2009

Previously posted by Swright

"Either way, I'm spent...This is starting to get really old."--->>> This is what it sounds like when apologists cry.

Anonymous said...

Ummm… because if SR had made those kind of numbers it would not have been a huge commercial flop.
^^^

I think the director was hoping the title Superman would guarantee a blockbuster.

Anonymous said...

"Oh that's right box office doesn’t matter for SR except when it comes to comparing it to Batman Begins."

You just screwed yourself because by that very logic Transformers is better than Begins and so is Returns since they made more money. So while we are at it lets throw out inflation and say that Transformers is better than Superman the movie and Superman 2, how about both Godfather movies is it better than that as well. You guys are really off the reservation.

colors said...

"Hey what do you know, Bay was actually able to take a 80’s icon and hip it up to date enough to draw in the original now adult fanbase along with the teenagers of today."

Since you mention it, I wonder that Bay could've made a pseudo-sequel to Donner's Superman film and accomplished it in a way that wouldn't make fans want to jump off a building and, oh yeah, might've turned a profit. It might not have been the Superman movie we were all hoping for, but at least it wouldn't have made us hang our heads in shame.

re: Transformers. Take note, Singer.

Anonymous said...

I’m sure a lot of the teenagers that made films like Spiderman, Pirates and Transformers so much money would tell you that all three of those films are better than Superman The movie, Superman 2 or The Godfather--Which I'm pretty most of them haven't seen and don't care too.

Anonymous said...

I think the success of Transformers can mostly be credited to the fact that Michael Bay took a much beloved property and created something visually that people hadn't seen before along with a compelling narrative with very high stakes.

IT also didn’t hurt that he was able to find two hot young leads that actually had chemistry with one another, and remembered that the ladies can also be a huge cash demo and decided to throw some Tyrese and Josh Duhamel.

Singer had the same opportunity with Superman but instead decided to remake STM instead, with the blandest cast he could find.

well guess what, people already have seen a man fly and it doesn’t impress them very much today.

At least not like a man who can swing and stick to walls, or a charismatic pirate with eyeliner and last but not least a giant transforming robot, who by the way was able to emote more emotion than Brandon Routh.

Anonymous said...

"I’m sure a lot of the teenagers that made films like Spiderman, Pirates and Transformers so much money would tell you that all three of those films are better than Superman The movie, Superman 2 or The Godfather--Which I'm pretty most of them haven't seen and don't care too."

So if a Superman movie is made that caters to that crowd and makes a lot of money that sutomatically means it is a great film. Look at Spiderman 3, the fanboys fucking hate it yet the teens love it and it made a ton of money. A films BO is not always relevant to it's quality. Titanic was 4 hours of soap opera sap and boredom and it is the biggest hit of all time.

S.S.S. said...

"Superherohype, comingsoon.net, SHP, IESB and I'm sure Rottentomatoes will have the story when they update on Monday since they rarely update on the weekend. All of these sites apparently feel that the story is solid enough and trustworthy enough to report on it, but this BLOG doesn't? Cut me a fucking break."

SSS just got fucking owned. Oh yeah and SSS by the way don't talk trash about IESB being unprofessional when crap like this you put in your BLOG,

"status was of the Superman franchise, after Singer got done screwing it's corpse,"

Oh yeah that quote is just loaded with class give me a fucking break you HACK!!!


First off, please reread my last post or have someone with the reading comprehension level of a 3rd grader read it to you. SHH linking to IESB's story doesnt make IESB's story any more believable. I said and I quote "I'll post that story here when another more reputable and less biased site confirms that news on THEIR OWN." Am I completely doubting it's true? No. Do I believe IESB as far as I can throw them regarding anything related to Singer and Superman Returns? No, not at all. They've shown their hand regarding the movies. I'll buy this news when someone without an agenda and an industry source that doesnt say "horseshit" confirms it.

And I can talk as much "trash" about IESB as I like. I'll call a spade a spade. Big difference between IESB and my blog is, they try to hold themselves out there as some legitimate news source reporting on the sci fi movie industry. My blog is an opinionated fan site. You know where I stand from the second the first page loads. When I start holding this blog out there as some kind of industry news source, then you can hold me to that definition of professionalism, until then I can run this blog like a blog.

Anonymous said...

the fanboys also fucking hate SR and it did dismal at the box office in proportion to its production budget.

Anonymous said...

Titanic was 4 hours of soap opera sap and boredom and it is the biggest hit of all time.
^^^
SR was also 3 hours of soap opera sap and boredom. Time Warner’s own Entertainment Weekly went as far as to call it “the bore of the year” in its summer wrap up issue.

Anonymous said...

last but not least a giant transforming robot, who by the way was able to emote more emotion than Brandon Routh.


Optimus Prime > Routh/Singerman

Anonymous said...

"Do I believe IESB as far as I can throw them regarding anything related to Singer and Superman Returns?"

Do your homework, they broke the news about Singer and his deal for the sequel that is a fact. Them liking the movie does not change the fact that they do not break that news first without sources either at WB or in Singer's inner circle. I like how you just basically said you don't mind being viewed as classless and immature as a means of justifying some of the crap that you say about Singer and other sites that like the film.

S.S.S. said...

Do your homework, they broke the news about Singer and his deal for the sequel that is a fact. Them liking the movie does not change the fact that they do not break that news first without sources either at WB or in Singer's inner circle.

Wow, they broke the news about a high profile director with an existing studio option for a sequel to a high profile movie, getting it picked up to develop a sequel. Earth-shattering scoop there on their part. You know tabloid rags broke the Brad Pitt/Jennifer Aniston breakup for Angelina Jolie news. It doesnt mean I believe their Elvis sighting reports any more now.

I like how you just basically said you don't mind being viewed as classless and immature as a means of justifying some of the crap that you say about Singer and other sites that like the film.

Umm that's not what I said at all. I said, and I'll make it kindergarten clear for you, THIS IS A BLOG. Blog's are an online summary of someone's opinion on a subject. If I dislike something and want to say "Singer raped Superman's corpse," than I can do so since this site is about the 3 people who run it's opinions.
Now let's compare that to running a "news site," one that very desperately wants acceptance into the mainstream online news media. If I write for that site and swear at Hollywood actors in interviews and call online fans "fuck sticks" in an article because they dislike, that's just a tad bit different, no? Do you talk the same way with your friends when your hanging out and drinking a few beers as you do when your at work in a business meeting? It's the same principle of formality.

Anonymous said...

We can only hope the script Singer turns in for SR II goes the way of the scripts for Wonder Woman and The Flash.

Superman Returns=Batman Forever
The Man of Steel=Batman and Robin
Bryan Singer= Joel Schumacher
The trilogy ends summer 2009

Previously posted by Swright

"Either way, I'm spent...This is starting to get really old."--->>> This is what it sounds like when apologists cry.

Anonymous said...

SSS all others must now kneel before Singer!!!!! The sequel is happening and there is nothing you to do to stop it. We have won! Now we can all work together for a superman sequel! For in 2009!....

Superman flies again.

Restart

I love how people jump on Swright for posting a link to a crediable source. Good job Swright you bring fact to a fact flacide board.

Anonymous said...

SSS what will you do if the sequel is a go? Are you going to continue your slander campaign against Singer or since you say you are a Superman fan at least give him a chance with the sequel before you rant on with your immaturity and fanboy panic attacks.

Anonymous said...

"...before you rant on with your immaturity and fanboy panic attacks."

Talk about the pot and the fuckin kettle!

What about you with your immaturity and gayboy panic attacks, ladyboy?

Terminal

Anonymous said...

"The sequel is happening and there is nothing you to do to stop it"

Huh?

It's thanks to people like this who believe anything that the world's in the mess it is. Notice how they're willing to accept mediocrity and every argument they come up with is about money

Anonymous said...

"Talk about the pot and the fuckin kettle!

What about you with your immaturity and gayboy panic attacks, ladyboy?"

Is your name SSS i want to know from him what he is going to do. Take your gay bashing and bigotry somewhere else. This site is about Superman not about bashing gays. What you do is the same thing as if Spike Lee had done Superman and you are calling him a nigger all the time, just because you hated his film.

Anonymous said...

"This site is about Superman not about bashing gays."

No it's about the gays that "bashed" Superman.

Anyway, fuck you. Some of my best friends are fags

"Take your gay bashing and bigotry somewhere else"

Oh, it's the guy with the little dick/authority issues again. Go to your room son!

Anonymous said...

Love the "Anyway, fuck you. Some of my best friends are fags" Thats like saying I have a lot of black friends so I can use the word nigger. A bigot is a bigot is a bigot. They will bash gays on this site because they are all little nazis inside. Sad lonely and afraid. Afraid of the fact that.........................

Man of steel in 2009!

Restart

All these apologist do is bash anyone who does not agree with them. I have owned this site over and over agail with facts.

Anonymous said...

"Anyway, fuck you. Some of my best friends are fags"

If that was remotely true you would not call them FAGS, nice try. Do you have have black friends you call niggers you stupid fuck?

Anonymous said...

I love how people say SR was gay. It is about Superman and Lois and they have a child. Did i miss the part where Superman is trying to hook up with Richard? You guys are clueless.

Anonymous said...

"If that was remotely true you would not call them FAGS"

No I call them Russell and Stewart.

You I call "ladyboy"

Now back to your comics!

Anonymous said...

"I love how people say SR was gay"

Congrats. There's some naive people on here, but you take the biscuit.

When your balls drop it might be clearer to you

Anonymous said...

"No I call them Russell and Stewart.

You I call "ladyboy"

More like Bigot and ignorant, you have got both of those down in spades. Hey i got black friends and gay friends and i call them FAGS and NIGGERS all the time, who the fuck are you trying to kid?? Talk about SR as a film all you want but leave this other nonsense out of it, it has nothing to do with the film.

Anonymous said...

Another thing i agree with nothing that SSS has to say but i know this much, he did not start this BLOG to serve as a breeding ground for GAY bashers. It is supposed to be about Singer's version of Superman not about his personal lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

A great man once said.."...you knows what funny about people like you, It’s that you’re so insecure about your love for Singerman cock that you have to come back day after day to a blog dedicated to hating SR to try and convince everyone and yourself that another film is on its way"

Superman Returns was gay. A constant criticism. You don't like it here, you fuck off. Singer's homosexuality which influenced the movie is a figure of fun around here. Again, fuck off

Anonymous said...

Do let me make a couple of things perfectly clear though.

There's nothing wrong with being a homosexual, as long as it's not compulsory

The term "ladyboy" I pinched from AP

I tell you, those fags get up in arms around here!!

Anonymous said...

"Superman Returns was gay. A constant criticism. You don't like it here, you fuck off. Singer's homosexuality which influenced the movie is a figure of fun around here. Again, fuck off"

You have got to be fucking kidding me asshole, based on what? Superman is in love with Lois and they have a CHILD you idiot. What is gay about him, the fact that he is not fighting a supervillain and is lifting a heavy rock at the end? You are a fucking moron if you see anything gay aboout SR. He comes back to earth, is still in love with Lois and they have a child together that is all there is my man. I dare you in any intelligent way to tell me how SR was gay. If you tell me it is because he was not punching anyone then i will be laughing myself to sleep.

Anonymous said...

"I dare you in any intelligent way to tell me how SR was gay"

Why is it up to me when it has been remarked upon for so long. Look at some of the imagery for a start, and secondly LOOK IT UP YOURSELF ladyboy. There's plenty to read about the fag overtones in SR. There's plenty of links on the right hand side of this very webpage you dumbass.

Typical, no fuckin idea. Thinks I'm the only person who thinks SR was gay when in fact he must be one of the very few who thinks it isn't!!

Fuckin priceless

Anonymous said...

"You are a fucking moron if you see anything gay aboout SR."

I'd like to nominate this as the most naive thing ever said about a movie.

Anonymous said...

"I love how people say SR was gay"

Christ on a bike! You saw how they made him look, didn't you?

Anonymous said...

"You saw how they made him look, didn't you?"

Freddie Mercury had straighter looking outfits!!

Terminal

Anonymous said...

anny/terminal:

So with the alogories in the film to Christ is Christ then gay? I now see how immature you all are! I hope this blog is around when the sequel comes out so I can hear you blow your pathetic brains out.......................

In 2009 SSS/Terminal/AP/Father/anny kill themselves!!!!!

Restart

The real retards are all of you!

Anonymous said...

"So with the alogories in the film to Christ is Christ then gay? I now see how immature you all are!"

Christ, you mean the single slim guy in the sandals who hung around with a dozen other guys? Sounds like perfect material for a Singer film. Restart, you are truly too stupid for words

Superman Returns is a Gay ANALogy

Anonymous said...

Anony....Did you even see the movie idiot. When he throws the mountain into space he falls like Christ. It was in all the reviews as well. Good thing an idiot like you post anonymously.......

Supes in 2009!

REstart

You just got owned loser!!!!

voice_of_reason said...

SSS what will you do if the sequel is a go? Are you going to continue your slander campaign against Singer or since you say you are a Superman fan at least give him a chance with the sequel before you rant on with your immaturity and fanboy panic attacks.

last time I checked, slander was the malicious speaking of untruths against someone. Considering SSS isnt "speaking" anything, and hasnt taken any shots at Singer other than saying he made an awful movie, I dont you have a case for slander. It's funny how people project what's said in the comments on to SSS. I challenge you to find one article on this site where he talks negatively about Singer in regards to anything outside of the movie.

As for your other question, I think most of us here agree that there is no giving a sequel with Singer a chance. Most of the first film's problems are engrained in it's continuity, and they'll all rear their ugly heads in the sequel. Unless of course they just 'forget" about those issues from the first film, which would make it an even bigger joke.

swright said...

"Freddie Mercury had straighter looking outfits!!"

Ok..I gotta admit...That was funny!

"As for your other question, I think most of us here agree that there is no giving a sequel with Singer a chance. Most of the first film's problems are engrained in it's continuity, and they'll all rear their ugly heads in the sequel. Unless of course they just 'forget" about those issues from the first film, which would make it an even bigger joke. "

Honestly though, I'm not sure the studio would be all that concerned with the fanboys. They'll fix the suit, add some action and maybe give the kid a limited role, but other than that, it's kind of a no win situation with us. All they can do is make it look like they care (which studio's are very good at).

Look at Transformers..you think the arguments we get into are bad, you should see the arguments between Transformer fans (especially G1 fans) about this movie. But all the complaints about how they look and Optimus having flames didn't mean jack shit to the movies box office.

That's the lesson the studio's will take out of the movie. Concede on certain things (Peter Cullen voicing Optimus) but do what you want to make money.

Those that hated SR may not give it a chance, but the general movie going public will if the trailers give them reason to.

Anonymous said...

"Those that hated SR may not give it a chance, but the general movie going public will if the trailers give them reason to."

Yeah, 'cause that thinking already worked so well the last time ... *rofl*

Face it: Singerman is an entity the public didn't asked for and sure as hell don't want a sequel to!

Singer made the expensive fanfilm he always wanted to do, Lois and Richad parent the next Superman and old Superman flies off into space in the end (looking dumb into the camera one last time) ... End of Story!

All of the sequel plots the fans and haters are discussing online are totally irrelevant to SR. There where ZERO setups for a direct sequel, only a bunch of final endings for storylines that should've already happended in the 80s.

Now that the Chris Reeve fans are satisfied, it's time to show a Superman for this generation!
One who acts normal as Clark and like a cocky MAN when he's in tights and has to fight intelligent enemies. Oh, and maybe a sexy and sassy Lois on the side too ...

ApologistPuncher said...

Who exactly are these "Apolgists", that they think they can tell people HERE what we can and cannot say?? These fucking ladyboy's don't even BELONG here, yet they act like they own the place??

Fuck off, you sissy nancy-boys.